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>>766523

Where's the poem ?

Obviously not, because you don't obey him

cringe

>>766526

Drunkards are sinner.

Not casual drinkers.

>>766525

Not finished yet

>>766527

This is based

>>766531

"Be ye not drunk"

You're drunk

Repent

>>766532

(.__. )

I follow Jesus but I'm not perfect

>>766523

I'd encourage you to read Galatians 5:21 and meditate on it, friend… even if you're a Baptist, have faith in God by repenting of that sin.

>>766534

It's ok friend, there's forgiveness in jesus

>>766534

>it's ok for me to sin because I'm not perfect

Romans 6:15

What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!

Stop getting drunk.

Figure out why it is you feel you need to get drunk. What is the problem, anon?

Friend, please post your poety. I would love to read it.

>>766526

Mote and the beam

>>766582

I don't drink

>>766602

Never claimed you did. You do sin however.

Romans 3:10

>>766799

The point of the mote and beam is against hypocrisy

Theres nothing hypocritical about identifying sin as sin

>>766523

Would you show us the poem? Also don't get drunk anymore.

cringe

>>770588

If that's your reaction to this thread that hadn't gotten any replies in 8 days, then why did you bump it?

>>766523

John 14:15

>>766538

>Galatians 5:21

Seems like that is referencing drunkards and not occasionally being drunk.

>>771503

I think maybe this is a semantic issue. Drinking in part for the pleasurable mental effects, to 'gladden the heart', and as a social lubricant is fine. However I would not refer to that as 'getting drunk', as that implies excess (drinking to the point you can't properly make decisions). Everyone is different but I would say for me my limit is 3 drinks over as many hours. Maybe a few more on special occasions, within reason. If I was a smaller man or a woman my limit would be lower. If you are regularly having more than a few drinks a day I would look into cutting back.

>>772105

'Drink' meaning a 5 oz glass of wine, 12 oz bottle of beer, or 1.5 oz shot of liquor.

So… where's the pottery?

Share with us your poem bardanon. I normally start singing about Jesus in the tune to whatever I'm listening to at the time when I'm drinking.

>>776790

>>776801

Friends,

Art comes from one's soul, and it may take a whole year to refine what first surges from the heart. Let's give our poet time: it will be worth the wait.

>>776857

I sincerely hope that's the case. Siblings in Christ, pray for Bardanon and hope he stays hydrated.

>>766532

It depends how drunk.

>>776863

No, it's being drunk at all

Be ye not drunk

Dont be drunk

>>776870

you could have one beer and be drunk potentially

what youre thinking of is puritan version of dont drink at all

>>776959

Not an argument

Drunk is drunk. If you're drunk, you're sinning.

>>776976

you can have one or two drinks and feel drunk, it isnt the same as having 10 drinks and being really drunk

>>776980

So it's okay to be drunk, because you could still get more drunk?

What is your position? It seems like you're arguing in favor of drunkenness.

>>777001

I am simply saying there are varying degrees of being drunk.

beginning with tipsy, feeling more talkative and happy

and the opppsite end being too drunk too even walk or talk and probably going to pass out soon

somewhere in the middle is okay, alcohol effects everyone differently depending on your age, weight, experience with the drug.

I am arguing in favour of alcohol, and I'm saying if you have one or two, youre entering the drunkeness, and that's okay

the only other position is being puritan anti-alcohol altogether, my position is be sensible

>>777011

By your own definition you're in direct contradiction with the command of scripture, don't you see that?

"It is a sin to be drunk". Affirm or deny?

>>777018

and you don't think everyone who shared the wine at the wedding was drunk too? mary was the one who asked for more wine because they were going to run out

there is a difference between being drunk and being a drunkard, like I said multiple times there are certain levels of drunkeness, i believe the scripture refers to the blackout drunk, the drunk you'll regret tomorrow and you won't remember anything you've done all night, this is very different to having a few glasses of wine and feeling a little drunk, don't you see that?

it's either ok to be a little drunk and sinful to be very drunk or it's drink alcohol or don't drink alcohol at all

>>777025

Okay, I couldn't pin that position on you earlier because we were just using "drunk" for everything. You're saying the biblical prohibition is actually about what we would call very drunk, and not about tipsiness.

I take the position that it's any influence at all from alcohol, because I find any other position is arbitrary. I view this just like the abortion argument regarding when the life begins.

At the wedding feast, Jesus turned water into non-alcoholic wine. We know this because it would have been sinful for him to provide alcohol to "well drunk" people, and because the headwaiter remarks on the good taste.

>>777034

There are numerous passages in the OT where God commands the Israelites to merrily drink their wine. We can presume that God wouldn't command His people to sin, so it stands to reason that, while abuse of alcohol is a sin, alcohol itself is not an evil.

>>777034

>>777034

That a puritan position. Influence from alcohol happens the moment you drink it. You're saying never drink it at all.

>>766523

I know it's been almost 2 months, but I'll bump this thread any way. Maybe OP will fill us in eventually.

If you do happen to read this but still haven't finished the poetry, stay hydrated.

Not OP but here is a poem, via drunk me

Rain has come, silence the voice of the pavement.

Dripping amongst potted things

dripping amongst the weeds

wiping away the gone away day.

Washing the sin from the stone

washing troubles to storm drains.

Be silent, quiet syncopated by tears from above,

angels water the gardens, holy holy holy.

angels watering the world.

Stain this scene with streetlights,

weak light against starlight.

Feeling the cool to come, feeling the lips of the clouds.

Feeling lips from the water.

Wash away the people, sleeping in houses.

Wash away the shadow of lies in alleyways.

Does the end redeem? in the end, do we wash clean?

>>790308

Stop getting drunk. Do not pretend it is God-honoring.

>>790323

thanks man, constantly aware of that. Every day I know I'm not living up to Jesus

I don't know you, but God bless you