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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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791da1  No.728079

Is MGTOW compatible with Christianity?

6709fe  No.728089

>>728079

Christianity is about overcoming sin and death through the grace of God and Jesus Christ.

MGTOW is about refusing to fight and turning away from both inner and external challanges, succumbing to deapair, fear and hopelessness.

tl:dr

No.


999766  No.728094

>>728079

>Is feminism for men compatible with Christianity?

No. Men and women were created to become one flesh and raise another generation of mankind.

Stirring unrest between them is the vilest thing you can do if you want to subvert a nation. And yes that is currently happening.

All our ancestors look down on MGTOW even worse than upon feminists. I am sure about that.


15193a  No.728096

>>728079

The christian answer to MGTOW's problem is maintaining the sanctity of the family, and holy matrimony. 'Scientifically' , monogamy and chastity. See also >>728094 . Not responding to depravity in kind. Monasticism is also an option.


074235  No.728112

The virgin MGTOW vs the Chad Christian colcel


791da1  No.728114

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Lots of (controversial) arguments for allow casual sex. There is no order of magnitude in how bad a sin is - people sin every day by lying or lusting - so it's not worse to pump and dump some women. Especially atheist women, they're beyond saving and would have sex with another man anyway if I weren't there

Sorry boys marriage is doomed, I've had multiple christian girls with long term boyfriends and husbands get way too flirty. Lots of stories about women cheating on their husbands with the pastors. I think a study stated that 20% of pastors have affairs. It's all doomed


79d903  No.728117

>>728114

It's only doomed when everyone stops fighting against it, my good man. Take heart, hope is with us.


791da1  No.728161

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e10c4f  No.728166

>>728079

If you're "going your own way" it means you're not going God's way. MGTOW is just Satanism rehashed.

>9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.


15193a  No.728178

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>>728114

>people sin every day by lying or lusting - so it's not worse to pump and dump some women. Especially atheist women, they're beyond saving and would have sex with another man anyway if I weren't there

That's like saying it's okay to steal from the crooked. It's just to prevent them from stealing, to punish for stealing, to help them 'from' stealing, but it's not okay to repay them in kind. Do not pay evil for evil, or wickedness for wickedness .

>Lots of stories about women cheating on their husbands with the pastors

In Orthodoxy, men who wish to be priests can marry, tough only before ordination.


6709fe  No.728197

>>728161

Freedom is death though. So winnie the pooh freedom. Hope is superior in every way.


debdef  No.728271

>>728079

i mean, if you want to become a priest, you have to go MGTOW, so i would say very compatible. also, here's a dilemma:

>say you somehow manage to find a unicorn

>its a sin to use birth control, so you have to winnie the pooh raw and for kids

>all that raw winnie the pooh is going to make a lot of kids

>liberal kikes and satanists have made it nigh impossible to afford to raise a family with more than a couple kids

so, you're left with a few options

>be rich as winnie the pooh, which will inevitably cause you to sell your soul, and have many kids

>have a few kids, as many as you can afford, and use birth control, which is also wrong

>take the hard to swallow volcel pill and be lonely for your whole earthly life, but sin less

its not like i want to be MGTOW, but i simply see no other option. as much as i would love to have a big family, it just seems like a pipe dream. thanks boomers


328e3b  No.728285

All of the Church Fathers were MGTOW


e4c58e  No.728300

No. Men and women were created for the benefit of each party. Total rejection of the other (either man or woman) is against nature, and therefore against God.


6709fe  No.728339

>>728271

False dilemma

My high school teacher has 7 kids he just doesnt bother spoilin them. He told me that its retarded to worry about giving your kids everything anyway, all they need is guidance and basic food items. I actually agree. They are a happy family who have everything they need on a very small income.


574eee  No.728396

>>728271

>i mean, if you want to become a priest, you have to go MGTOW

Well you aren't going your own way you'd be going Christs way, but I do see your point.

>have a few kids, as many as you can afford, and use birth control, which is also wrong

You could just choose to not have sex with your spouse, or space out your children's birth over a timescale that's easier to manage. Otherwise follow >>728339 this anon's advice and just don't give your kids more than life lessons and the bare necessities. I can guarantee you that they'll be happier.


65a56a  No.728435

>>728271

> if you want to become a priest, you have to go MGTOW

not really? You are supposed to go God's way, fully, when becoming a priest, devoting our whole life to the small flock of souls the Lord will entrust you with…MGTOWs also, in general, seem like the flip side of feminism; too many are self-centered and bitter towards the other sex. Not that I do not understand why so many end up like that (I got my heart broken and stepped onto many times), but I would not say it's an healthy solution.


f463ea  No.728446

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>>728285

>All of the Church Fathers were MGTOW

Being celibate and MGTOW are two very different things, silly Christanon


56eb0d  No.734103

>>728089

So monks, priests, nuns, etc. who take vows of celibacy aren't compatible with Christianity?


105640  No.734114

More like CRINGTOW

also no


f58f18  No.734120

>>734103

>low quality bait


0848b0  No.734129

>>728079

Only if it stands for "Make God The Only Worshipee"


aa573a  No.734162

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>>728094

>>728096

>>728114

Christianity is patriarchy, Christian marriage is patriarchal marriage, Feminism and Christianity are incompatible.

End anti-discrimination laws, end no-fault divorce, end suffrage. Feminism is destroying Christianity.


d74f3d  No.734166

>>734162

This.

Equality is a heresy.

Feminism is marxism and atheism is another heresy.


223d18  No.734211

>>728197

Freedom is God's greatest gift to man.


056f36  No.734212

It might be if all the everyone in your town is adulterous and sodomist.


18a338  No.734214

>>734211

>this thing that arguably doesn't even exist is God's greatest gift

No, Jesus is.

Your heresy must be purged.


852860  No.734346

>>728079

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a productive adult who just finds women too bothersome. Only 17 year old larpers claim otherwise.


880597  No.734392

>>734346

The problem is most of their community think they are sticking it up to the gynocentric MAN when in reality they are following Hollywood's lone wolf womanizer.


30c416  No.735217

Yes, but there are many Christian women in the world, so one is not presently barred from leaving his locality. Anyway:

https://www.openbible.info/topics/nagging_wife

1 Corinthians 7:6-9, 32-35

But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

-

But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:

But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.

There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.

And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.


836060  No.735218

MGTOW is for cowards


282f12  No.735321

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b5ed42  No.735360

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>>728079

Celibate because of Christ faith =/ celibate because women are "hipergamic cunts"


223d18  No.735787

>>735360

>implying it's not true

MGTOW would make more sense if it was MSTOW, because 99% of the members did not willingly choose to avoid females. No male wants to admit they can't find a gf/wife, because that's just depressing. Hypergamy is a real thing. Remember that Eve ate the fruit, not Adam.


705829  No.739752

>>728339

i wish that was me


aae951  No.739755

>>735787

>Remember that Eve ate the fruit, not Adam.

You need to crack a Bible some time. Genesis 3:6. Adam did eat the fruit.


3d4deb  No.740304

>>735787

>MSTOW

What does the S stand for?


d0b64d  No.740986

>>728079

Most MGTOW are people who cant get girlfriends/laid so they choose to say "haha I didnt really want a gf" and then instead of pursuing the degeneracy of premartial sex, they pursue the degeneracy of vast amounts of self-indulgence and hedonism.

A few are probably genuine and they do bring up some very reasonable points such as most modern women being whores, legal systems weighted against men etc.

>1 Corinthians 7:8

>Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.

In short, some aspects are and some aren't, one should be celibate unless God bestows him/her a partner that loves the Lord, not because they wish to indulge in a different form of worldliness.


a92e4c  No.741236

>>728079

No, only argument in favour of it is that priests and monks are some of the most pious man and they are celibate much like the MGTOW.

But that's a bad comparison to make, priests and monks are called to God and become celibate for reasons that aren't "winnie the pooh women they be evil", which is at the core of their movement, not to mention they aren't even celibate usually, they just don't want marriage or any commitment to a relationship which they actively shun, but would like to still be considered men and be able to copulate just without the accountability.

Sounds familiar? Yeah, it's just radical feminism but on the men's side, which makes it even more despisable and shameful.

So no not at all.


3ec07a  No.741240

>>728112

>colcel

what is that now?

>>728161

my only hope is to lose all hope

>>728079

So to sum up what others already said.

No, MGTOW doesn't imply giving themselves to god, often implies adopting waifus bodypillows, or even falling deeper into PMO degeneracy.

A man can complete on his own (and he should), but he wont ever be able to live fullest to his purpose without a wife and offspring, thus a family.


fb1508  No.741305

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>>728089

>MGTOW is about refusing to fight and turning away from both inner and external challanges, succumbing to deapair, fear and hopelessness.

That is not MGTOW.


fb1508  No.741307

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>>741240

>A man can complete on his own (and he should), but he wont ever be able to live fullest to his purpose without a wife and offspring, thus a family.

1 Corinthians 7:7-9

I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.

To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Note: YOU may live to the fullest while being married, but that may not be true for many. Also, the current state of women in the modern world and the predatory divorce laws against men makes marriage not desirable.




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