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>>724175

Not complete unity because there will always be hardliners

But Elijah and Enoch will return and convert the Jews and possibly heretics and schismatics

>>724175

>Will Catholic-Orthodox unity ever happen?

When Roman Catholic recant their heresies.

>Will Catholic-Protestant unity ever happen?

When Protestants recant their heresies.

>Will Abrahamic unity ever happen?

When Muslims and Talmudists recant their heresies.

>>724175

>Will Catholic-Orthodox unity ever happen?

Step 1: Find common interpretation of the scriptures, the Fathers, and pre-schism history

Step 2: Find common interpretation of the relationship between clergy and laity

Step 3: See what should be done with doctrine that is currently defined as dogma by both sides

I personally think a dramatic re-interpretation of certain Roman Catholic doctrine will be needed. The filioque and Purgatory are actually on their way there, thanks to the 20th century patristic renewal that began with the edition of the Sources Chrétiennes. For unleavened bread for the Eucharist, I think it is the Orthodox who could make a detour and agree that unleavened bread can be used. Then there is the big issue of the Papacy… I have no clue how it could be solved, Vatican I was a big problem. God willing, our bishops will be enlightened by the Spirit to figure something out without throwing away the truth.

>Will Catholic-Protestant unity ever happen?

Anglicans, possibly, if they let go of their idiocies (gay marriage and ordination of women). Protestants generally have a very, very different starting point than Catholics on how to approach the faith though. I can only imagine Protestantism slowly crumbling as people convert to Catholicism.

>Will Abrahamic unity ever happen?

Jews will recognize their Messiah at the eschaton. As for Muslims, I have no clue - their whole tradition is founded upon a rejection of the Jesus that Christianity presents. I think they'll need to be converted one by one, they'll be counted among the pagan nations when the eschaton happens otherwise.

I personally think all you need is belief in trinity

Baptism

Communion

Apostles creed

Faith

But if your faith doesnt produce works its dead.

>>724196

Oh ya and real repentance and honesty towards any congregation

>>724175

Yes, all those who reject the antichrist will join in Christ. Eventually the few faithful will all convert to truth.

Only in the end times, though.

>>724179

SPBP

>>724175

>Abrahamic unity

There is only one `Abrahamic' religion: Christianity.

Kikes worship Moloch/Satan/Money/kikeishness, not the God of Abraham. The Muslim cult has absolutely nothing to do with Abraham.

>>724196

>But if your faith doesnt produce works its dead.

That was a heresy to a Protestant denomination, just now. I'm not going to say which, but at least 1 believes this statement is wrong.

I think its funny that people think about unity and stuff and don't realize that unity necessarily implies that they have to ignore the "heresy" of other denominations.

Catholics or Protestants united with Orthodox have to ignore any Doctrinal differences made during the schism. Same with Catholics or Orthodox with Protestants, and specially Christians with Judes and Muslims.

>But we all believe that belief in Jesus Christ gives salvation!

Whenever a Catholic acts out salvation believing that Virtue affects Faith, and that Wisdom affects Virtue, and so on, a Protestant might(Depending on denomination) disagree with that, saying that Faith is not related to works(Or Virtue as a Catholic might call it)

As for me, I'd rather have Orthodox or Catholics finally discover who's right instead of tolerating one another. I think its obvious that God only has one opinion and only one church states that sole opinion. Right now I'm convinced its Catholicism but I'm honestly open to changing if I discover anything new.

>>724175

Yeah, all religion will unite when the Antichrist comes.

>>724175

no

when the vatican is no more, some Catholics will become Orthodox

Rome is the whore of Babylon

>>724175

>Will Catholic-Orthodox unity ever happen?

Maybe but I doubt it

>Will Catholic-Protestant unity ever happen?

Very unlikely

>Will Abrahamic unity ever happen?

kek.

>>724366

converting americans was a mistake

>>724175

<Will complete religious unity ever happen?

>>724395

^Obsessed.

>>724395

>denying the great commission to own the masons

traditionalism was a mistake

>>724175

>Abrahamic unity

Not until the Christian religions come together, and even then only certain ones

Islam is not Abrahamic, they worship other gods, Allah is not the Lord

Jews worship Moloch, they have forsaken God

There is no such thing as "Abrahamic religions". It's a complete misnomer. The only Abrahamic religion is Christianity. Judaism is a small fringe sect that rejected the Messiah and is still expecting a future messiah. Islam is a Christian heresy (basically Nestorian warlords).

>>724411

>My question is, why should we care about “unity”?

…

>I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

>>724175

The jews have already infiltrated most of those so I would say it's already happening.

>Will Catholic-Orthodox unity ever happen?

Will orthos ever stop caring about politics and accept the council of Florence? They even get mad at each other for an non country like Ukraine so you tell me.

>Will Catholic-Protestant unity ever happen?

Many conservative anglos are coming back to the Church because they are tired of the gay feminist shit. I've heard so Lutherans were interested to have personal ordinarites, like the convert anglos. As for Baptists and other protestants who really hate the church its up to the individual.

>Will Abrahamic unity ever happen?

Once all the Muslims are dead and when Elijah comes back in the end of the world to tell the Jews to convert.

>>724548

This is coming from a dude whose church was broken in half because of the political power play of Russian.

Look at yourself before saying shit.

The Catholic Church has lots of problems, but none of them are related to geopolitics.

>>724550

>muh Russia

show us where putin touched you

>>724552

Ortho larper.

>>724553

>it's another catholic pretends to be an orthodox episode

>>724186

>The filioque and Purgatory are actually on their way there, thanks to the 20th century patristic renewal that began with the edition of the Sources Chrétiennes.

Yeah.

Stuff like Nouvelle Theologie helped a lot.

>For unleavened bread for the Eucharist, I think it is the Orthodox who could make a detour and agree that unleavened bread can be used.

I think our western rite already parishes use unleavened, and no big bishop has mentioned it as a problem, so…

>Then there is the big issue of the Papacy… I have no clue how it could be solved, Vatican I was a big problem. God willing, our bishops will be enlightened by the Spirit to figure something out without throwing away the truth.

As a guy who reads about this stuff a lot, here's a personal theory on how they will reconcile it.

They will say something like "the Pope has universal jurisdiction over the East only to settle disputes between sister churches that will escalate further, and only invited, and with 2 more high ranking bishops(like it happened when Bartholomew had to intervene in another church to step down the Cypriote patriarch, due to his Alzheimers, or how the Moscow synod abdicated Nikon)"

>>724507

Unity in truth yes, but not some fake “everyone is the same and we should all just get along for the sake of getting along” kind of soft ecumenicism. If there was to be an orthodox/catholic merger, many things on both sides would need to be discarded to do so.