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Your dad was 100% right.

They don’t want to follow the law of God first because all people are evil, second, they are not saved and therefore God has not planted his law in their heart.

The ceremonial is fulfilled, the civil law only bound in the governmental institutions (though it's not enforced by Christianity), and only the Moral law remains in the conduct of God's people.

What exactly is the moral laws? This is been a looming question even in the early church, but generally speaking, anything that Christians ought to avoid and obey is reflected of the said laws. For example, we're to follow the two commandments; to love God with all of our being, and Love our neighbor as ourselves. Both of this orders are from the books of law.

>>721193

>What exactly is the moral laws?

The Noahide laws maybe.

Jews were made to follow the ten commandments out of God's covenant with them.

The replacement covenant he made with the whole world is with Jesus.

Still the deuteronomic codes are somewhat logical and useful considering how they functionally prohibit many moral offenses and potentially repulsive things like the consumption of (most) insects and all land predators as well as cannibalism but ultimately whether doings such things for the sake of survival makes one sinful might have to do with intentions more than anything ("Is it lawful on the sabbath day to do good, or to do harm?" and "The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath").

So do you have big ole side locks and mutton chops? Do you wear clothing of one cloth? Do you anoint yourself before you go to church?

>>721313

Some things are said to be considered abominable by God. Others might have a purpose which is a mystery.

Rabbinical writings say there is power in the payot. Such emphasized locks might probably be a later development.

Some theories suggest the possibility of static electricity being generated in cloths of mixed wool and linen fabric, which could be harmful or interfere with the functioning of something, like the Ark of the Covenant maybe.

Anointing one's self couldn't hurt since it is a consecratory act which you would be doing before stepping onto consecrated ground.

Are you Jewish? If you're a gentile read Acts 15, especially 5-11 and 19-20.

>>721313

No, one of Jesus' main points was we should follow the spirit of the law instead of the outward traditions.

>>721341

I'm not but why would my race excuse me from following God's law?

>>721181

None of the OT was overriden. We're not Muslims who believe in abrogation of revelation.

It doesn't mean everything in the OT directly applies to us though.

Some Christians are "scared" of the OT because it can be difficult to understand the OT if one has an incorrect understanding of what the scriptures say and how they should be used. For instance, why does God in the OT constantly uses death to purify the world from sin, when Jesus's whole business was about destroying death? At first glance one could think that these are two different gods working here. Not all Christians who "ignore" the OT think there is an evil god and a good god (those would be Gnostics), but one can see why some of the OT's texts would be uncomfortable to read.

Deuterocanonical Law is divided into three segments, and it has been understood this way since long before Christ was born. Those three segments are: Ceremonial Law, religious precepts that must be followed for religious Jews to participate in Judaic ceremonies; Civil Law, legal statutes concerning interpersonal conflicts to be enforced by a Jewish government; Moral Law, rules by which all people should live, regardless of religion or government. Ceremonial law only applies to religious Jews. If you are a non-Jewish Christian, these don't really apply to you. The civil law should technically be applied in Israel, but that's none of my business. This leaves the moral law. So, how do we tell what's what based on these statutes?

Paul gives us some hints in Romans. The law is there to reveal the truth about sin, but we are no longer bound by the law. Should we then sin? Certainly not! No longer being bound by the law is a higher standard than being bound by the law. We are to instead read the law looking for the meaning behind the law and thus discern what we should do based on the character of God, thus the commandments 'Love the Lord your God' and 'Love your neighbor as yourself' being given as a summary of all the law and the prophets.

So why don't we freak out about kosher laws and such? Most of these had to do with an allegory of mixing. Hebrews were instructed not to mix with the surrounding nations. As a constant reminder, they could not mix fabrics. Death could not be mixed with life. Only the purer, cleaner animals could be eaten. Hebrews had to rest, and so did their fields. Some of them had beneficial secondary effects, but they are all reminders of who the Hebrews were supposed to be. Christians do mix and do not separate themselves, so laws intended for such things don't apply to Christians.

There are also clues in the language as to whether God says this is never ok or if it's just a disqualifier for entering the temple for a few days.

>>721387

Mixing with other peoples, especially ones with poor morals often is said to lead to physical curses in the OT. It's right too. Mixing the white stock away in Brazil has led to a sad shithole. While the more segregated US is blessed in many ways.

The laws of the Old Testament are mostly there just to keep the jews alive in the desert until Christ returns. That's it.