==Young Catholics urge Vatican to issue inclusive LGBT message...==''The Vatican took a step in that direction by making a reference to “LGBT” for the first time in its preparatory document heading into the meeting.''http://archive.today/2018.10.21-2

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Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 03:56:40 1f27bf No.717596

Young Catholics urge Vatican to issue inclusive LGBT message…

The Vatican took a step in that direction by making a reference to “LGBT” for the first time in its preparatory document heading into the meeting.

http://archive.today/2018.10.21-234159/https://apnews.com/5c51dab8700745abb6e02384c8d1188f

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Catholic bishops are entering their final week of debate over hot-button issues facing young Catholics, including how the church should welcome gays and respond to the clerical sex abuse scandal that has discredited many in the church hierarchy. The monthlong synod of bishops ends next Saturday with the adoption by the 260-plus cardinals, bishops and priests of a final document and approval of a separate, shorter letter to the world’s Catholic youth. Some of the youth delegates to the meeting have insisted that the final document express an inclusive message to make LGBT Catholics feel welcome in a church that has often shunned them.

“The youth are talking about it freely and in the language they use, and they are encouraging us ‘Call us, address us this because this is who we are,’” Papua New Guinea Cardinal John Ribat told a press conference Saturday. One of those young people, Yadira Vieyra, who works with migrant families in Chicago, said gays often feel attacked and shunned by the church. “We know that’s not true, any Catholic knows that’s not true,” she said. But she added bishops need to communicate that “the church is here for them.” Catholic church teaching holds that gays should be loved and respected but that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.” Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich said young people are also demanding accountability and transparency from the church’s leadership, which has been excoriated for having covered-up the abuses of predator priests for decades. He repeated his call, first made in an interview last week with National Catholic Reporter, for bishops to cede their own authority and allow an external process involving lay experts to investigate them when an accusation against them has been made. “Lay people want us to succeed. People want us to get this right,” Cupich said. “Yes, there’s a lot of anger out there. But beneath that anger there’s a sadness. There’s a sadness that the church is better than this, and that we should get this right.”

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 04:13:00 582be6 No.717598

This is what happens when you allow the (((reformation))) to corrupt the nations, rather than following what the apostles passed down to the church through the ages. Sacralism revival when?

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 04:37:18 cfd3e9 No.717605

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>>717598

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 04:40:14 f0477b No.717606

>>717596

>>717598

This cements the fact it won't make a difference if you catered to them once, they'll demand every other non-gay environment to be gay. And if you don't make it gay, then they'll relentlessly attack you. Did it make a difference for them when they were pandered in media, academia, and in other secular institutions. Not at all.

It's not about tolerance, it's about worship. You're supposed to give yourself up to God, not to demand others to give themselves up for you to pretend that you're not sinning. The lengths that these people go through to make themselves not feel guilt is retarded. If you feel so guilty from performing that vice, don't demand others to change. CHANGE YOURSELF by NOT DOING the action that makes you guilty.

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 04:48:08 b42e2a No.717609

>>717598

I love this new Catholic mindset we're seeing. Blame anyone and everything else for the fires you started and refuse to put out. You were the first protestants, and you wont be the last. Orthodoxy was and still remains Christ's true Church.

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 05:07:28 a35843 No.717623

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>>717606

>It's not about tolerance, it's about worship. You're supposed to give yourself up to God, not to demand others to give themselves up for you to pretend that you're not sinning. The lengths that these people go through to make themselves not feel guilt is retarded. If you feel so guilty from performing that vice, don't demand others to change. CHANGE YOURSELF by NOT DOING the action that makes you guilty.

Right, and also wouldn't the proper term also just be Misguided religious worship? The amount of effort some of these people go to. To just to get their message across/the work they commit to in their environments. Is really something, you'd see in Religious communities. *We have to get this messages across, We have To!, We have To!.* *It's inhumane how Lgbt people are Treated in certain communities* *Presupposing an, objective Moral law, etc that go with that* You want Living proof of modern day, Idolatry? People in the Lbgt Community/Legislation are living proof. And be wary of people trying to subvert Scripture to support their habits. Cause sooner, or later people are going to wake up that. You can't really justify moral absolutes unless Grounded in, the Transcendental/Religious worldview. Cause once you question Materialism/Relativism. Then the whole thing falls apart, a house of cards.

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 05:24:46 1c530c No.717632

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>>717596

>we don't want pedos in our Church

<we need more gays in our Church

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 05:49:36 4f63c0 No.717652

>>717632

Really takes that noggin joggin

>>717609

It's a lot worse than that. But I agree, I do love it too.

>Everything is Protestants fault

>>717596

Woe is Babylon

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 09:34:24 3c8347 No.717710

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>>717596

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 09:51:12 c8887f No.717711

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>>717596

Damn faggot enablers ruining my Church.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 14:31:51 bcc900 No.717751

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>>717596

"Anyway, I was walking by the church the other day, admiring its beauty, when I noticed a banner attached to poles. Written on the banners were the following words: “We are people who believe in justice, come believe with us.” Other banners on other poles substituted the words “hope,” “peace,” and “grace” for the word “justice.”

Lovely sentiments and lovely invitations. They happen to ornament an Episcopal church, but (except for the word “grace”) they might just as well have ornamented the front window of the headquarters of the Communist Party. Who doesn’t believe in justice and peace and hope?

As for grace, it’s an ambiguous word, which sometimes has a Christian meaning but often does not. You might have thought that a church named “Trinity” would have a banner that said, “We are people who believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Come believe with us.” Or perhaps, “We are people who believe in Jesus Christ, true man and true God. Come believe with us.”

But no. Banners like that would not be “inclusive,” and in the secular (or secularist) culture that dominates present-day America, the greatest of all values is inclusivity. Its opposite, exclusivity, is a great sin. Racism is a great sin, and so is sexism, and so is homophobia, and so is transphobia, and so is xenophobia, and so is Islamophobia.

These “isms” and “phobias” are great sins against the supreme value of inclusivity. This value used to be called tolerance; but the word “tolerance” has negative associations. It’s as if the merely tolerant person is saying, “You’re wrong, but I’m willing to put up with you.”

By contrast, the person who believes in unlimited inclusivity is saying, “You’re right, and I want you in my circle of friends. Everybody is right – except of course those awful people who practice exclusivity.”"

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 14:33:48 bcc900 No.717752

>>717751

"The problem is: Catholicism is not an inclusive religion. True, it is morally inclusive. That is, it is quite willing to accept as members people who are thieves, fornicators, adulterers, liars, wife-beaters, homosexuals, members of the Mafia, etc. Being wicked doesn’t get you kicked out of the Catholic Church. In fact, the Church claims that it exists for the sake of bad people.

It exists for the purpose of helping bad people become good – indeed, of helping them not just to become good but to become saints.

But the Catholic Church is definitely not doctrinally inclusive. And it never has been. Even in the New Testament (written in the first century A.D.) heresies are condemned. The Catholic religion is not one that has ever said, “We believe what everybody believes: that water is wet, that fire is hot, and that justice and peace are good things.”

No, Catholicism has always said, “We are a religion with a creed that is intended to include some people and exclude others, and if you disagree with the articles of our creed you cannot be a true member of our Church. We will have to exclude you.”

…

Liberal Christianity used to be a Protestant monopoly. In recent times, it has invaded Catholicism. It tends to ruin any Christian denomination that embraces it – for example, The Episcopal Church, which is now in a state of virtual collapse. It is currently ruining Catholicism in the United States (and elsewhere).

Beware of churches, whether Catholic or Protestant, that advertise themselves as “welcoming.” Translated into English, “welcoming” means “We are in the process of committing institutional suicide. Come join us as we leap off the bridge.”"

https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2018/10/19/how-churches-commit-institutional-suicide/

Christanon 10/22/18 (Mon) 17:26:52 16a8fe No.717811

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