/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>712717

Yeah..i hope i can correct this erroneous position and hopefully teach her more about our religion ( i don't think she has been cathechized properly )

>>712709

My first advise is slow down. Depending on your laws, you probably have 4 years before marriage is possible.

Your desire for her to enter heaven is a good one, but you also need to work on that point. A man should lead regardless if others follow. So be a leader. Pray with her. Take her to church (on a date). Get active in the church's community together. Enjoy your youth.

Work on your friendship more than the intimate relationship. Remain chaste so you can enter into a covenant relationship with a clear conscience.

Stop thinking about what you want, and focus on what is best for her.

You will be fine if you do what is right for BOTH her and God.

>>712722

Alright. Thanks for the advice, God bless!

>>712709

Stop all intimate actions. You are defiling a virgin and neither God nor her father have given you bodily rights over her. You are not allowed to kiss or touch until you are married.

>>712740

I can't do that. If we stop touching, i'm pretty sure she will be very hurt and angry. If we stop kissing, it will be even worse, she will not accept it and i'll lose her forever. You can't expect me to maintain a relationship like this for 4 years.

>>712709

>but neither her or her parents go to church ( neither do i )

Go to church. Talk to a priest about all of this.

>>712717

>having a sinful opinion annuls your affiliation to the church

>>712740

>kissing is bad

No it isn't.

Neither is holding hands.

Exercise self-control and don't have sex before marriage, and all will be fine.

It's fine to kiss her but go no further. Avoid being all alone with her at your/her place.

Also tell her what the Catholic Church really says about baby murder and while on it educate her on chastity and marriage but in a soft way not to make her feel uncomfortable with it.

>>712811

>>712814

Shameful.

>>712814

In OP's defence people used to marry younger than OP back then soo its not odd that he can love a girl at that age.

The problem here imo is the age difference between the two of them.

I wouldn't risk my ass being caught by the cops, even though in my country (in Europe) the legal age is 14. Still I'd be careful.

>>712923

That is why they should keep it in their pants until marriage.

Kissing will not be considered a crime by any government, so that is the upper limit that they should allow themselves until they DO get married.

I would agree w/ the other posters. Think of the long game.

If u are 17, your body and brain have not fully developsd yet.

If she's 14, the same, though women physiologically mature faster than men

Think of social norms. This ain't the cowboy days and ur not being forced into a shotgun wedding.

Think of the law. 16 or 18 is the youngest one is legally allowed to marry in most states.

How are u going to support a family?

Getting married is good. Having a plan is good. Waiting is good.

Have u prayed about it?

Do u have a way of support?

If u ever want to run for office, u need to be squeaky clean.

Pray. Follow the rules. U'll be ok.

>>712743

Explain to her the necessity of it and that it offends God. She doesn't respect you because you have no self control. If you can't court without intimate contact then you shouldn't get married as you will not be suited

>>712767

>The Church is infallible but you can disagree with us guys lel :DDD

>>712927

>That is why they should keep it in their pants

I think going to hell is more threatening than going to jail tbh.

>>713017

There's no problem in normal kissing.

What you shouldn't do is get carried away and stick your tongue into her throat while groping her and those shit that eventually will lead you to lust and worse, fornication.

>>713017

People who are scared of losing their "girlfriend" if they stop kissing are effeminate degenerates. It's probably a good thing if she wants to end the courtship anyway seeing as she wants to murder babies

>>713017

Also if she respected you she would conform her views of abortion to yours and the truth. And she would not leave you if you refused to be intimate until marriage. However it is evident that she does not respect you because you are effeminate and have no self control and are desperate to keep her entertained that you willingly sin. No woman respects that even if they pretend to

She is 14 year old girl. She is easily influenced by the outside world

>>713081

>>713082

I reflected upon your posts and you're right, i have to change my behavior. I will stop being so lustful and start having more self-control. And if she doens't like that, she doesn't truly love me or respect me. I'll focus more on our friendship than in our intimacy. I think she respects me, but the problem is that i've been too soft on this issue. I'll start to say that abortion is infanticide, and that supporting it is supporting child murder. From now on, i will be more of a man. Thanks for calling me out.

>>712814

>>712934

t. female boomers

That mind set is part of the reason why modern Christians are weak limp wristed faggots. Leave this place and stop shitting it up. Feminism has clearly rotten your weak boomer minds to a point where it cannot be fixed.

>>>/reddit/

>>>/qlarp/

>>>/boomerpol/

>>712766

OP you should do this.

>>713088

Deo gratias, it is my obligation and incredibly pleasing to see a young man take the path of justice!

Now moving forward: if you show any backbone and do not waver under the inevitable tests she throws you then she will respect you and probably conform her views to yours. Remember courtship is about guaging if this person has sufficient virtue to be your wife and this should only take 3 months to figure out. If marriage laws allow it I recommend getting married as soon as you have discerned. By the age of 18 you should be mature enough to be married and start a family

Why would you date a 14-year-old girl? Teenage girls are annoying and stupid.