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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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f2e4b4  No.708553

After ages of laughing along with my anti-religious father, I decided to lay it straight to him; I am a Christian who believes in God.

Of course my father didn't appreciate that, he started going on about how it is all silly and you would have to be stupid to believe in God.

I gave him really two arguments, the first being Aquinas' cause argument; there cannot be an infinite causal chain, there would have to be a first cause. This first cause would have to be necessary for existence (He would have to exist) or that this cause would spontaneously come into existence (which I said was illogical). The second argument I gave was that Atheism was hopeless. He brought up the classic atheist problem of evil. I replied saying that how is evil evil? Even if we concede that evil exists in the universe then Christianity gives an answer, future hope. Under Atheism the little child killed by Cancer fades to nothing, but under Christ there is the hope of resurrection. He replied to these arguments by saying that there was no God, that my arguments were (I quote directly)

"nonsense". He said I should just bother with fornicating with women, and "living my life" (I asked him what the hell that meant and of course he could provide no justification for those actions). What should I do?

b8f83a  No.708556

>>708553

To be quite blunt, right now he sounds like he has a hard heart not open to rational or faith based apologetics, and you need to fervently pray for him as much as possible.


b8f83a  No.708557

>>708556

Btw, I'll be praying for him as well.


f7cde3  No.708558

People calling themselves atheist are most likely the subscribers of modern-day globalist beliefs; your father seems more an example than an exception. If you want to debate this, study political globalism extensively.

Atheism is globalism is feminism is socialism is PC-ism is Marxism. These people do not believe in a neutral God, they do not believe in the absence of souls; they believe a nameless deluge of teachings handed down to them by Hollywood and public schools. So if you want to fight it, study it. If you wanted to survive a war against reptile people then you would probably spend some time studying how reptiles work.


2b5f50  No.708569

These people are reprobates. Only God cana change their heart. So start praying and move out as soon as you can.


13f0aa  No.708571

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>>708553

>fornicating with women

If he becomes open to rationality then use Sci-Hub to get around the

paywall and show him the pdf of the DOI link below

https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x

If you don’t want to do that then show him this link

http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html

>living my life

Turn this around on him and ask why he doesn’t let you “live your life” as a Christian

Also if you really want to go deep on him then ask him why he really is anti-religion/Christianity/Jesus/God since he really has nothing really to counter the two arguments you presented to him and that he would have to call all the Christian scientists and inventors who paved way to modern technological world as “stupid” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology) if it is due to his rationality

>>708556

>>708569

You could do this also OP but also keep in mind he could possibly be hell bound if he is stubborn till death and it is something that you are going to have to accept


f6accb  No.708637

>>708553

Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I was an “science” type atheist until I read the Gospels. Most people have never actually read the Word of God themselves.




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