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>>704763

Maybe because most women now break their cherry from masturbation. So by the time that they actually lose their "viginity", they are no longer virgins.

>>704763

Because lo and behold, 63% of women lied or abused themselves so when it came time, there was no blood.

I also want to make it clear I am not here in bad faith. I am a christian and my faith is not shaken by this question, but I dont have an explanation for it.

>>704763

As others have said, masturbation is a cause. Also, tampons. God gave women hymens for a reason.

Now I have a question; what exactly was the token of virginity? How was it administered?

>>704783

Deuteronomy 22:17

'And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech [against her], saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these [are the tokens of] my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.'

I would assume from this reading, it is a blood stained sheet.

>>704791

Right, so, culturally, was it agreed upon that the woman would take the sheet and give it to her parents?

I figure that's how it must have worked.

>>704794

yea but my concern is with woman that either weren't born with a hymen, or it was destroyed through non-sexual strenuous activity.I suppose one can just say shit happens, but I am wondering if there is a better explanation.

>>704797

Yeah honestly horse-back riding (non-sexual activity) is just a made up excuse. It seems obvious what the hymen is for. We have the word of God confirming it too it seems.

I think theres a few big factors:

molestation (sad, but actually really common), tampons (stupid invention), just lying about prior sex, and like another poster said, masturbation. These added up very well could equal 63% of women (roughly)

Hoo boy …

Ok, the hymen is not a magic barrier. It isn't necessarily broken by masturbation or anything of the like. It usually dissolves on its own by the time a girl is 3-4 years old. If the hymen were some kind of crazy magic barrier, then how in the hell could a girl have her period if she were a "virgin"? This deliberate ignorance needs to stop.

>>704763

There's a lot of odd rules in the Bible. Like that one where a wife suspected of cheating has to drink some bitter holy water, and if she cheated it'll make her have a miscarriage.

>>704812

And then promptly stoned for adultery. Why do you think its weird? This seems perfectly fine to me.

>>704813

If it was a miracle I guess it makes sense, although the exact nature of how the water does this is unclear. It's just odd. Easy for a skeptic to say they were just giving poisonous water to these women, and it reminds me of the witch trials. I dunno. And also seems to imply abortion is okay if the child is the product of adultery.

>>704826

First of all, not all hymens are the same. Second, how do you explain that some girls are born without one at all? Using the hymen as a sign of virginity is stone age nonsense and, frankly, I'd expect it out of Muslims; not Christians.

>>704833

Whoever said Christians were supposed to? OP is about OT laws.

>>704804

>>704797

You have to keep in mind that life was different for women back then. They couldn't break their hymen easily as they do now since they served as housewives.

>>704800

It would tear, but it wouldn't be torn apart entirely.

>>705217

Human anatomy hasn't changed much since those days. Some women are literally born with no hymen and a huge amount of women's hymen dissolves naturally by the time they're 3-4 years old. Further, the "bloody sheet" thing is meaningless since many (if not most) don't bleed their first time because the vagina contains natural lubricants.

It's not a matter of "different times". It's a matter of ignorance.

>>705218

I'm just going to say now that you are factually incorrect, and that no matter how many times you repeat something that still doesn't make it true.

>>705217

This, the most strenuous activity that women would have done at the time was stomping grapes for winemaking.

>>705248

I’ve noticed this meme a little too much too. “OMG Hymens like, aren’t even real”

Truth is, anatomy fag here, the hymen really SHOULD bleed on first intercourse. It is very much innervated with tons of blood vessels. Almost like it was designed with a purpose or something.

>>704833

t. Roastie

>>705385

roasties btfo

>>704763

>wammin authors

there is your sign, op

>>705385

There are no blood vessels in hymen tissue. You've just proved you're a liar or completely ignorant.

>>705608

Tissue with no blood vessels would be dead, you have just proved that you are actually the idiot. Google a picture lf a hymen and tell me if that is dead tissue

>>705618

The cornea has no blood vessels. You think that's dead tissue? Maybe you should take an anatomy class or two.

>>705218

few women != all women

Anatomy has always remained consistent, but different periods influence lifestyles that would change it.

>>705638

>Anatomy has always remained consistent

The hymen has no consistency. Some are like doughnuts, some are like honeycombs, some are like weird ladder looking things. It's like claiming that all eyes are the same color because they're eyes.