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Based street preacher

>you bow down to something, that's idolatry

Wow, "based" street preacher.

I have a feeling threads like these are started by atheists/fringe/muslims just to sow discord among Christians.

Sage.

>>704188

Agreed, much of this “banter” on this board only causes strife and division on this board.

Would violence be justified in this situation? I don't mean excessive use of violence, but just some "manhandling", maybe rough him up a little bit. Assuming one could do it legally. I mean, he is preaching heretical ideas, which could potentially appeal to vulnerable members of the flock. The Church used to literally sanction war against heretical creeds like the Cathars. I think a little show of moderate violence may have been called for in this situation, since it's quite obvious he was not open to dialogue.

>>704198

>Would violence be justified in this situation?

Justified? Maybe. Legal? No.

>>704198

>we don't like what he's saying, someone better rough him up

>>704214

Look, man. If he was open to dialogue it would be a completely different situation. He clearly isn't, though.

>>704169

I have my misgivings with Catholicism but this is just embarrassing.

>>704216

The only one that didn't seem open to dialogue was the priest that said two words to him and then called the cops.

He explained himself very succinctly to the officers.

Not one member approached him to ask why he feels the way he does and if they felt he's misguided in his beliefs they should have gone with Matthew 18:16.

>>704226

The priest came up to talk to him but the guy kept speaking past him and didn't acknowledge him. That's what I saw when I watched the video.

>>704169

Think those two post here? Seems more than likely I think.

>>704226

>someone standing outside your house with a sign and shouting slogans

<w-why aren't you open to dialogue? D:

>>704226

actually he's not open for dialogue by definition

https://youtu.be/dX1VuUyx0xU?t=181

>We believe that the servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle, not debate and after two admonitions reject the heretic

oh look, based preacher seems to be rejecting trinity

>>704198

Defeating somebody's ideas by countering said ideas intellectually is better than simply attempting to force them out of existence with violence. The pen is mightier than the sword. Christ didn't violently suppress the blasphemy of the Pharisees, instead, He destroyed their heresy with His words, words that are remembered and recited to this day for their power. If He was a zealot who just overthrew those authorities violently, would we remember Him today, even if He was successful in that endeavor?

This is at the core of the principle of free speech but #TOTALLYTRAD catholics don't like that because masons lmao, medieval peeps were based af!

>>704268

Yeah, but as was pointed out, that guy was not open to dialogue. You could very easily argue that he was disturbing the peace. You shouldn't just be allowed to go around in public acting like a lunatic.

>>704281

I didn't mean undermining his ideas right then and there. If you're worried about the heresy he's spreading, then combat that heresy whenever you can, even if a representative of it isn't present.

The problem >>704198 had was that he was spreading heresy and endangering the souls of the flock, not that he was disturbing the peace. "Manhandling" somebody for their ideas is wrong. Forcibly removing somebody who's causing a ruckus right outside private property isn't wrong. That's the difference.

baste

>>704329

What's wrong with protecting the vulnerable from being led astray?

>>704411

Unless you have a weird Catholic commune, “vulnerable members” have all already left you guys long ago so the only people left there are just doing it because “muh culture” and delusional ones who think anyone really believes their theological contradictions

>>704293

>>704268

Ip switching,,,,, yep ;/

Also

>>704188

More, than likely, as to what's going on. Not everyone on /Christian/ has good intentions. Just be aware. Also Promoting Pacifism? Where does the bible teach pacifism? That really just seems like enlightenment ideas/Modern interpretation being applied to the bible. When that was never the case like Jesus the Communist….

Usually with the Pacifism stuff like, No, NO, NO, no Violence at all Regarding Heresy etc. When it comes to Religion. Usually found in New Atheist, and just Anti Theist. Who usually try to contort, the bible into something it isn't. Vid, being posted from Mr. Lewis showcases just that. You may be new in faith and seeking, as i once was maybe not sure on the whole Pacifism, and turning the cheek verse. But it's just not true, it's a lie that just keeps popping up in, Pop Culture, and Academia. Again, like the Marxist Jesus/New age Hippie Jesus. That's not, The Ancient Christian worldview.

>>704329

Nah, it’s you non-Trinitarians who are a joke. The overwhelming majority of Christians historically would have you justly punished for your heresy.

>>704329

>It does not matter if a vulnerable member of a flock falls prey to heresy.

The absolute state of protestant deformation.

>>704329

>Lmao what you wouldn't let Satan into your Parish just because he might sweep some of the laity away to hell muh freeze peach?

>the absolute state of protties…

>>704198

>oy vey the goyim know shut it down