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>>702967 (OP)

>God has left America

No other country has more new Orthodox Christians, so no.

Then Abraham drew near and said, “Will you indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? Suppose there are fifty righteous within the city. Will you then sweep away the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous who are in it? Far be it from you to do such a thing, to put the righteous to death with the wicked, so that the righteous fare as the wicked! Far be that from you! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do what is just?” And the Lord said, “If I find at Sodom fifty righteous in the city, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”

>>702967 (OP)

Every country deports and detains illegals because they broke the law. There hasn't been a single terrorist attack under his presidency because he has an anti-illegal immigration stance.

Stop being a gullible personal who falls for manipulative photos made by anti-Christian moral relativists who want to destroy your country. They're not interested in preserving law, they're interested in causing chaos and disorder. Look at California for instance.

Cracking down on unwanted immigration is perfectly within the jurisdiction of the civil authorities. I won't deny that there is something really hypcritical about the whole situation though, considering that the only reason that these immigrants are here in the first place is due to deliberate lax enforcement of our borders because the government wanted cheap labor to flow in and now they're backtracking and going "lol they are illegal we must kick them out". De jure it is true that they are here illegally, but de facto the government pretty much asked them to come in if we're being honest. Still, ideally, Mexicans need to make their own country less shitty, instead of just fleeing to other countries for work. It's not a black and white issue, and frankly it's quite complex. I won't deny if I was a Mexican I might very possibly immigrate north as well. I think if you weigh pros and cons it's better to kick them out, but we shouldn't deny that it is also rather cruel.

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>>702967 (OP)

>God has left America

It's the other way around, and it's your fault, liberal.

>>702967 (OP)

It is when we are at our most tired, desperate, hungry, cold, and afraid that God is closest to us.

>>702967 (OP)

Womp womp.

>>702967 (OP)

Go back to leftpol

>>702967 (OP)

I think you came to the wrong board, >>>/leftypol/ is two rows down.

>>702967 (OP)

>we should let criminals in our country because it's mean to filter

>>703061

>turning away your Christian brothers and sisters because of a man made line in the dirt

As much as I have to agree with the other anons in this thread, I would go as far to say that not only has God never been with America, but that it’s Satans greatest creation. This country may had good ideals in its beginnings, but the rise of secularism, hedonism, and over all separation of the Church and state is a big factor(though not the sole reason) the west is falling.

>>703079

A good effective long term solution would be to perform the Marshall Plan like we did with Japan, not to replicate the same conditions to make those people integrate in our country.

>>702985

But they are zelotic anti-western russiaboos

>>703079

>why don't you accept liberation theologists and people who put folk spirits into their daily worship anon

>>703087

This is the best plan. These countries are obviously incapable of managing themselves to a large extent, so more direct adjustments by responsible powers would be for their own good. Also some means to fix the local heresies that have arisen.

Hate to be the guy to try and fix Argentina or Venezuela though…

>>703089

There's other Orthodox communities that are not Russian, you know.

>>703100

>Argentina or Venezuela though…

give me the rundown

>>703101

You don't know about those two places? Ay…

Well, I'll give you the quick versions. Venezuela is probably the most well known area of the two. It had a rough history but in the 1990s it wasn't doing too badly. Then late in the decade the economy crashed and Hugo Chavez came to power, a Communist essentially who tried to violently overthrow the government a few years earlier. Since then, through his administration and after his death through his successor Maduro, the country has become an ever growing disaster. He and his party have nationalized many things, given control of some of them to foreign powers and companies for quick cash, even gave away the country's gold to Goldman Sachs. Meanwhile services get worse and worse; only Caracas has any semblance of normality, but there are still lines for water. It doesn't help that all the other opposition politicians are also corrupt, and if they aren't are either under house arrest or increasingly only in safety while outside the country. In other words the classic pattern of degradations you see with these kinds of governments.

Argentina has also had it's share of problems. There were difficulties under the Perons, including some association with Freemasons on their part. More recently Cristina Kirchner legalized gay "marriage" there…the Kirchner tenure was overall a disaster on moral grounds; economics ended up no better in the end, with later nationalizations, and the subsidizing bread and circuses with government money. It hasn't gotten much better since that era ended. They've tried to hide their economic problems from the rest of the world through obfuscation. When that didn't work, they decided to take money from the IMF, not only putting them on the hook for foreign powers but also kicking the can down the road for the current leadership. That worked out so well, that the Argentine Peso has fallen over 50% against the US Dollar just this year alone so far, and interest rates have spiked to 60%.

There's other problem areas south of the US-Mexico, but those came readily to mind. South America seems to have a lot of trouble, even when people aren't claiming interference in their affairs. It paints a very dim view.