I need to know if SSPX is just a meme or if it's truly important I drive 70 minutes to the one church in my city that's part of it every weekend.I really will go if I have to, but i don't understand the whole controversy. Wouldn't this also mean every non

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Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 17:58:46 5cc2bc No.702242

I need to know if SSPX is just a meme or if it's truly important I drive 70 minutes to the one church in my city that's part of it every weekend.

I really will go if I have to, but i don't understand the whole controversy. Wouldn't this also mean every non-sspx church is invalid, the eucharist is invalid, and the penance is invalid? It just seems like a stretch.

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 18:48:24 e8e552 No.702272

>Wouldn't this also mean every non-sspx church is invalid, the eucharist is invalid, and the penance is invalid?

I wouldn't listen to anyone who says this, it's a very schismatic viewpoint but also ridiculous. As far as I'm aware the sspx are in communion with Rome these days, I might be mistaken though.

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 18:56:18 905e0c No.702277

What you need to know:

-All their sacraments are valid

-The Pope himself gave them the right to hear confessions indefinitely.

-Their masses fulfill Sunday obligation

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 19:01:59 5909e2 No.702283

>>702242

I personally prefer the FSSP in terms of Tridentine mass, the SSPX only just had marriages performed by their priests recognised by Rome and while they're not fully schismatic any more I can't say I trust them too much. If you feel like you need to go to a Tridentine mass every week then sure, keep going. Other masses aren't invalid though

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 19:06:06 76be59 No.702286

>>702242

>I really will go if I have to, but i don't understand the whole controversy

SSPX consecrated bishops against the direct orders of John Paul II. Since Archbishop Lefebvre went against Petrine authority, excommunication followed. Benedict lifted the excommunications on the bishops (IIRC Lefebvre had already died so there was no point), however what authority they are allowed to have is up in the air.

In general, confessions and sacraments are valid, and they can have new priests consecrated. That said, until the situation is fully resolved the general suggestion of NOT attending their Mass unless it is an emergency is still in effect.

Also keep in mind that there are groups splintering away from the main body of SSPX that are in significantly less good standing with Rome that do not recognize the authority of Rome, and in some cases have actively hetrodox positions. You will have to use your discernment in this regard.

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 19:10:28 940c29 No.702291

>should I go to a semi schismatic church

Most diocese offer tridentine mass somewhere. Find it and go there

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 19:50:32 9ae3aa No.702310

The SSPX are schismatics from Rome. Rome only allows them the Sacrament of Penance.

If someone had invalid rites it would be the SSPX not the churches in Communion with Rome. But the Sacraments offered by them are true, but illicit.

Christanon 09/16/18 (Sun) 20:21:25 781598 No.702342

>>702242

Depends on who you ask. SSPX says they're valid, the RCC says they're not. The Pope is trying to bring them back into the flock, though.