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What you find, with the legalization of acts that are inherently against God's law, that it emboldens society on rejecting His word. 40 years ago, birth control was sinful, but it became widely available; abortion was legalized. 20 years ago that still was half hated, especially partial birth, but it was accepted enough to push on other "sexual freedom" such as homosexuality. Now (as you can see in this very catalog) you have people rejoicing in their ability to murder their children, and the power of the state comes down on you even if you mention you do not like sodomy. Currently the new trend is transsexualism and pedophilia as the current battlegrounds. And this is just in America, Europe is also quite hopeless and some countries (like Canada) are even worse than those two sections.

So, really, what I am saying, is your love for your brother enough to override God's law? Because that is what it boils down to. I don't know what is in his heart, but the lobby of the group he's in loves corrupting things to their own preference in every sense of the word. Everything from the OT to the observations of the church fathers, saints, dissidents…all make note of this tendency of theirs as a group. And it's not like there weren't gays 500-1000 or even 2000 years ago. They haven't changed in character since those, they are just more open on their predilections and more willing to push against that which they are too prideful and lustful to deal with.

I will say your self-description of him as an "unrepentant sinner" is worrying…typically if you are gravely sinful in one area, which he would be in that mode, there's other issues beyond that I imagine.

>>700916

Like thievery and murder, even if it was illegal, people would still do it. However the point of enforcing laws isn't about making the action disappear entirely, it's about shifting the culture. Not only would they be less vocal about it to indoctrinate your children, it would reduce their promiscuity as they would probably do it with a single partner who wouldn't rat them out.

Instead of jailing them or placing the death penalty, why not sentence them to community service? Not that it'll matter anyway, they'll still oppose it strongly like they did with Kanuvaugh.

>since we ultimately have free will, it doesn't matter what is or isn't a crime, since God will judge all of us by His eternal laws

States have the authority and responsibility to recognize and enforce such laws as are in conformity with the natural law and contribute to the common good of the people.

As sodomy is a crime against the natural law, states have a right to recognize this crime as a crime and punish it with a just punishment.

The only remaining question, in determining whether sodomy should be illegal, is determining whether punishing it contributes to the common good. This determination must of its nature be concrete, limited to a given time and place, and therefore is impossible to make in totally absolute terms.

However, strong arguments can be made that in virtually if not actually every existing case, it would be better for the common good if sodomy was criminalized and punished.

One line of argument, based on the fear of God, would literally point to what happened to Sodom as proof that sodomy should be illegal for any state that wants to survive the divine wrath.

Another would point to the infinitely blooming, ever freshly demonic spiral of negative practical consequences that we observe sodomy to create for society. Just to name a few: gay-specific STDs, the creation of an "underclass" of homosexuals agitating for new "rights" every year, the degradation of same-sex platonic friendships when suspicion of homosexuality becomes too common, the slanders against prominent historical figures being "claimed" by the gays, the fact that normalizing sodomy has made it more common, the notoriously high promiscuity of sodomites, and… oh, yes, the giant elephant in the room of correlation between homosexuality and child abuse.

A third argument would say that legalizing or decriminalizing sodomy sends a message via "implicature" that "we no longer consider this a bad thing" and thereby causes scandal ipso facto.

Yes. That only two out of five sins against sexual natureare illegal is offensive to God and Dignity of Mankind. Sodomy should be illegal too.

>>700916

I think a better solution would be to ban public displays of sexuality altogether, be it gay straight or whatever.

Our problem stems from the fact that sex was brought into the public domain, where it should never have belonged in the first place.

Purge it from advertisements, remove it from schools, cut it out of public life. Talking about sex should be considered highly improper and shameful.

It's an intimate part of human life, which means it should be treated in that very same fashion.

Making this or that sexual activity illegal will achieve nothing, they will just do it away from prying eyes.

What we need is a blanket taboo on sex. That way everyone can get along with their bussiness, without poisoning the well for everyone else.

>>701143

Basically this, combined with a gay cure research.

>>700916

>Should sodomy be legal?

Well, it is legal. How's that workin' out?

>>701124

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