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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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eddc25  No.700885

A Catholic told me that Jesus is the Son of God, a second person in a Trinity of God who is eternally begotten by the Father, who incarnated to save us from our sins, was born of a virgin, did many miracles, and resurrected three days after his death.

A Mormon told me Jesus is the literal Son of God and Mary, the first born of Elohim and a Heavenly Mother, who came to show us the power of Elohim and died for our sins and rising three days later to be an exalted deity over us in a three way Godhead and eventually made his way from Israel to America where he taught the Native Americans.

A Jehovah's Witness told me that Jesus is the Archangel Michael, the firstborn of Jehovah, who became the Christ at his baptism and died on an upright stake and that his body re-materialized three days after his death in contrast to the Catholic and Mormon doctrine that he resurrected.

A Muslims told me that Jesus was only a prophet sent by Allah to be born of a virgin and to preach the Injil and that in fact he did not die at all, but was raised by Allah into heaven.

A Unitarian told me that Jesus was simply a good teacher who had good ideas about love and forgiveness, and that instead of any miracles his death was simply an example for us all to love.

A Jew told me Jesus was a deceiver and false messiah who is currently boiling in excrement.

An Atheist told me Jesus never even existed but was made up by the Romans to control the slave population through a fringe form of Judaism.

I don't get it, who is the real Jesus? Who was he!? Everybody has told me such different things!!!?? I need help.

eddc25  No.700887

>>700885

A Hindu told me that Jesus was an avatar of the deity Vishnu who came to restore Dharma through love and forgiveness.

A Buddhist told me Jesus was a Bodhisattva who united his mind to the mind of the Buddha through love.

I really don't get it guys. :( Who was he!!!!!!??????


b82e8b  No.700890

>>700885

>A Catholic told me that Jesus is the Son of God, a second person in a Trinity of God who is eternally begotten by the Father, who incarnated to save us from our sins, was born of a virgin, did many miracles, and resurrected three days after his death.

Sounds about right


739aeb  No.700904

>>700887

>>700885

Why don't you read the Gospels written by eyewitness or people who knew eyewitness and decide for yourself instead of comparing it to stuff written by Muhammad 600 years later or Joseph Smith 1800 years later?

Give it a try.


34f5ca  No.700920

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>>700893

>This one. Christians perverted the original message of Jesus (A.S.) because of false prophets like Paul.

Ah, on cue, that's been debunked. Always read into your information Muslim.


34f5ca  No.700921

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>>700893

Also the whole "the bible has been corrupted" would invalidate Islam as well.


126511  No.700922

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>>700887

Not sure if babby's first troll, or if babby's first internet post.


34f5ca  No.700929

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>>700885

>A Jehovah's Witness told me that Jesus is the Archangel Michael, the firstborn of Jehovah, who became the Christ at his baptism and died on an upright stake and that his body re-materialized three days after his death in contrast to the Catholic and Mormon doctrine that he resurrected.

JW are part of cult, like the mormons are to freemasonry.

>A Muslims told me that Jesus was only a prophet sent by Allah to be born of a virgin and to preach the Injil and that in fact he did not die at all, but was raised by Allah into heaven.

Watching

>>700920 and >>700921

>A Jew told me Jesus was a deceiver and false messiah who is currently boiling in excrement.

Watching marching to zion https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=typ2pl2L47k

>An Atheist told me Jesus never even existed but was made up by the Romans to control the slave population through a fringe form of Judaism.

There is soo much literature on Jesus beyond the bible that confirms the bible, atheists won't accept God because of personal reasons (i would know, since i used to be one).

>I don't get it, who is the real Jesus? Who was he!? Everybody has told me such different things!!!?? I need help.

Try the liturature of the group of poeple who are followers of Christ, Christians.


a79552  No.700938

>>700929

>Try the liturature of the group of poeple who are followers of Christ, Christians.

That brings up the age old question: Can a Christian be unbiased about Jesus?


2f4308  No.700941

>>700938

No person can be truly unbiased about Jesus, he’s too divisive. That being said, there’s a lot more evidence to back up the Christian position


a79552  No.700943

>>700941

Oh I agree with you on that, but I know I can't be unbiased about Jesus. I'd be a terrible source for information about my beloved lord and master.


34f5ca  No.700944

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>>700938

Depends on what you mean by unbiased. If you believe that Christians can distort what Jesus teaches, then you must know that Satan can influence ideologies to distort opposing views of Jesus.

If you take the New Ager's or the Atheist's perceptive of Jesus, then you should know how atheism and New Age religion connect to satanism. No one knows Jesus, or Christianity like Christians.

I recommend watching some Christian apologetics, since there is a lot of evidence for Jesus in Christianity than whatever modern ideologies https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTHDvEc6d7JFKB6YZ277AZ1gInn05xsZQ


b9e6c1  No.700951

And now ask yourself.

What religion did Jesus create?

That means that religion is the one right about them.

Another argument, how could Mormons, witness etc know about jesus 1700 years later?

Our best guess would be the religion that Jesus Himself founded and that said the same thing about Him since the year 30 to 2018.


34f5ca  No.700952

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Freemasonry became popularized in the 1700s, the exact same time that Joseph smith wrote the supposed "other testimony" of Jesus. Mormonism teaches self-goodhood/ becoming Gods, which the bible speaks against.

It sounds confusing OP, i know, but if you read the bible and then compare what others are saying you'll see they're adding on or changing what originally happened.


5613ab  No.700953

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>>700885

The first one is accurate. Mormons and JW's doctrine is shaky at best, they don't even roll with the Trinity so certainly by basic standards they are not strictly Christian, although their dogma obviously borrows heavily from us. And everyone else you mentioned can't even be called Christian with a straight face (Muslims? Hindus???).

In terms of all the other faiths except atheism they generally will have a certain opinion regarding the Lord since they want you to either discount him or think he's some sort of hippie guru that is "cool" so that you can convert to them. They are operating on a certain line regarding that, you can't say "Christ is Lord" and then say "muh Mohammed". You have to keep that in line.

As far as the atheist goes, since he follows a line that is both anti-faith and anti-Christian, he will make things up saying that there is no historical record of Christ. This is of course insane. There are historical records of the people who persecuted Christ. There are increasing references from pagans of the era who mention Christians, more every decade. Just recently the temple where the First Council of Nicaea was found. Polycarp was a indisputable historical figure, who was trained by an apostle (who himself would have had to have been historical), and thus apostles would have had to been under the wing of Jesus to have that kind of situation develop for them. And so on and so on. The evidence for the atheist position is probably the most flimsy of all since that can only be supported by evidence, which is in our favor. They can only then respond by saying He wasn't supernatural (which is bizarre given His sudden and extreme impact), or that even if all that was true that they basically hate God/Jesus in actuality because it impinges on their secular modern society in ways they don't feel comfortable over or because of a troubled childhood that they don't feel had enough divine intercession on, or something beyond a rational point that is easily dealt with.


b9e6c1  No.700954

>>700938

Even if the eye witness of Christ lied it wouldn't mean the others were right.

In fact it would mean we lost absolutely every information about who He was, making all the other opinions even less founded. They'd be no more than lucky guesses.


b9e6c1  No.700957

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>>700954

PS: the historical Jesus of Nazareth was the only begotten Son of God, begotten from the Father before all ages. He is God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father through him all things were made.

For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures.

He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end.

This is the True Faith no matter what everyone one else (600 years+ after Christ lol) says.


751856  No.700970

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>>700885

His early followers who met him face to face seemed to think the Christian perspective, and were willing to go to their violent deaths for that belief


cf4c2c  No.700987

Go to the earliest sources, apostles, Paul. Read for yourself.

The non christian interpretations are just speculation.


589e0f  No.700994

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>>700929

>That first pic

>There is no evidence other than the Bible

The cycle stops here. If they hit this point there is nowhere to go but down.

Luke 16:31

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


e1a609  No.700999

>>700952

>over (((6,000,000))) men

Remove masons


f52268  No.704827

>>700885

fug, the bait on this board is weak as pi$s

>>700920

< The media could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported.

Anyone else getting these messages regularly on Invidio.us, no matter what the video?

Ever since Google pissed on the ashes of Hooktube, invidio.us has been going wrong.

Fug google and all their shit


751856  No.704923

>>700885

I wouldn't put faith in "alternative" gospels that were written 100 of years after Christ


698cb9  No.704928

>>700885

Catholicism (33.ad)

Islam (610.ad)

Unitarianism (1550.ad)

Mormonism (1820.ad)

Jehovah's Witnesses (1870.ad)

catholicism is the oldest and only one that claims infallibility.

rlly makes u think




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