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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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c69024  No.699406

I've heard the old if it will praise Jesus it's an angel bit. But I'm too paranoid to believe that. Can't a demon just say "Jesus is Lord" and carry on with it's hijinks?

f38233  No.699409

Jesus is Lord

Jesus is Christ

Kadoish Kadoish Kadoish Adonai Tsebaot

(Holy Holy Holy is the Lord God of Hosts)

(this is what the Jews used in the face of potential demons before Christ)

Where Christ Jesus is invoked we have on good authority that a demon holds no power.


c69024  No.699416

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>>699414

Exactly, if demons can't pretend to invoke Jesus that means heresies are true, but they aren't so therefore demons must be able to tolerate His name and even feign worship.


fe5a16  No.699417

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>>699406

Ask him/it to recite creed and see what happens.


5618b1  No.699498

>>699406

A demon can not stand the breath of a pure and devout Christian the demon may lie and pretend to praise the Lord but even the act of touching a demon by a person of strong faith can be enough to drive them out. These are things given to us by Jesus himself and proven demonstrated many times in the bible when Jesus sent to apostles out to combat demons and preach the word. Sometimes an incredibly strong demon may be able to resist but in that instance the demon will reveal themselves because their own pride is so great.


5f35f2  No.699549

>>699500

>EXPOSED!!!11!

>>>/trash/


65fa58  No.699663

I remember a story told be an exorcist where a young woman told him that Jesus came to her in a vision and she had been getting them regularly. Concerned over the possibility of a demon masquerading as the Lord, he asked her to ask the entity what his most recent sin was next time it showed up. He then returned home and did regular confession.

When he next saw the woman, she said when she asked, she was not informed of the sin. The exorcist then informed her that it was indeed Christ.

The reason is as such; when the Lord forgives you of your sin, he forgets it. Basically a "water under the bridge" situation. Demons however autistically remember every bad thing you have ever done regardless of whatever amends you make, and will be quite happy to remind you of them all serially so as to make you lose faith in salvation. If what this girl had run into was a demon, it would have replied with information on the sin.

>>699498

>but even the act of touching a demon by a person of strong faith can be enough to drive them out

Strong faith, sure, but the authority of Christ is also necessary.


4cdc17  No.699675

RULES

FOR THE SAME EFFECT WITH

GREATER DISCERNMENT OF SPIRITS

AND THEY HELP MORE FOR THE SECOND WEEK

First Rule. The first: It is proper to God and to His Angels in their

movements to give true spiritual gladness and joy, taking away all sadness and

disturbance which the enemy brings on. Of this latter it is proper to fight against

the spiritual gladness and consolation, bringing apparent reasons, subtleties and

continual fallacies.

Second Rule. The second: It belongs to God our Lord to give consolation to

the soul without preceding cause, for it is the property of the Creator to enter, go

out and cause movements in the soul, bringing it all into love of His Divine Majesty.

I say without cause: without any previous sense or knowledge of any object through

which such consolation would come, through one’s acts of understanding and will.

Third Rule. The third: With cause, as well the good Angel as the bad can

console the soul, for contrary ends: the good Angel for the profit of the soul, that it

may grow and rise from good to better, and the evil Angel, for the contrary, and

later on to draw it to his damnable intention and wickedness.

Fourth Rule. The fourth: It is proper to the evil Angel, who forms himself

under the appearance of an angel of light, to enter with the devout soul and go out

with himself: that is to say, to bring good and holy thoughts, conformable to such

just soul, and then little by little he aims at coming out drawing the soul to his

covert deceits and perverse intentions.

Fifth Rule. The fifth: We ought to note well the course of the thoughts, and

if the beginning, middle and end is all good, inclined to all good, it is a sign of the

good Angel; but if in the course of the thoughts which he brings it ends in something

bad, of a distracting tendency, or less good than what the soul had previously

proposed to do, or if it weakens it or disquiets or disturbs the soul, taking away its

peace, tranquillity and quiet, which it had before, it is a clear sign that it proceeds

from the evil spirit, enemy of our profit and eternal salvation.

Sixth Rule. The sixth: When the enemy of human nature has been perceived

and known by his serpent’s tail and the bad end to which he leads on, it helps the

person who was tempted by him, to look immediately at the course of the good

thoughts which he brought him at their beginning, and how little by little he aimed

at making him descend from the spiritual sweetness and joy in which he was, so far

as to bring him to his depraved intention; in order that with this experience, known

and noted, the person may be able to guard for the future against his usual deceits.

Seventh Rule. The seventh: In those who go on from good to better, the good

Angel touches such soul sweetly, lightly and gently, like a drop of water which

enters into a sponge; and the evil touches it sharply and with noise and disquiet, as

when the drop of water falls on the stone.

And the above-said spirits touch in a contrary way those who go on from bad

to worse.

The reason of this is that the disposition of the soul is contrary or like to the

said Angels. Because, when it is contrary, they enter perceptibly with clatter and

noise; and when it is like, they enter with silence as into their own home, through

the open door.

Eighth Rule. The eighth: When the consolation is without cause, although

there be no deceit in it, as being of God our Lord alone, as was said; still the

spiritual person to whom God gives such consolation, ought, with much vigilance

and attention, to look at and distinguish the time itself of such actual consolation

from the following, in which the soul remains warm and favored with the favor and

remnants of the consolation past; for often in this second time, through one’s own

course of habits and the consequences of the concepts and judgments, or through

the good spirit or through the bad, he forms various resolutions and opinions which

are not given immediately by God our Lord, and therefore they have need to be very

well examined before entire credit is given them, or they are put into effect.


5f35f2  No.699679

>>699675

Cant you people type in human language in your own words instead of autistically copy-pasting things?


4cdc17  No.699757

>>699679

Have american education fallen so low that people don't understand stuff written by guy with no proper education?


fe5a16  No.699759

>>699757

I'm not American. Instead of talking about education of others, next time, show yours and actually use your words to write a post instead of copy-pasting it like anyone could.


ea750e  No.699764

I had a dream recently where a man was talking to me about how happy he was to have Jesus as his king. However, he wouldn't look me in the eye, repeatedly swore loudly, and seemed generally insincere. I believe it was a demon.

If the Holy Spirit is working through you, you will not be fooled.


2c839a  No.699793

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>>699406

In what sense necessarily? Gonna need context here duder.

Yes they can, even demons don't deny God and would be more than willing to speak truths and masquerade about if it meant corrupting someone.

Why don't you know this?

>>699409

Read your bible.

>>699414

Or just corrupt men...

>>699417

>demons can't recite scripture/magic words meme

You can't be serious,

>>699498

>fleshy being touching a being not made of flesh, an incorporeal being

Ya blew it

>>699663

And it was clearly just that, a story

>get asked if they sinned recently

>say no because you're a lying demon

Demons can't lie? Strange.

>>699764

A cigar is sometimes just a cigar. A dream, just a dream.

Just be alert for anything ungodly or unchristian, otherwise assume it's indigestion.


7b93d9  No.699794

>>699793

So is there really no way to be sure whether a spirit is an angel or a demon?


4cdc17  No.699795

>>699759

It does not follow. Anon wanted something for discerning spirits. I gave him. How autistic does one to be to REEEE at fact that I am not the author? Does quality of advice depends on originality? Are we to start paraphrasing Bible too? Stop being fag anon.


fe5a16  No.699797

>>699793

>>demons can't recite scripture/magic words meme

>You can't be serious,

>1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

>2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

>3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Read your Bible, poohing autist


2c839a  No.699803

>>699797

Then who was that really in the temptation of Christ? Truly a mystery.

>seducing spirits versus faithful ministers

>test people or things you encounter to ensure they don't lead you towards an "antichrist"/different "christ"

I can only imagine what you think those verses mean.


65fa58  No.699826

>>699793

They can lie, sure, but really the best way to get someone to keep or lose faith is to use the truth as a weapon. Certain both the divine and the infernal know that…

>>699794

Ask someone IRL who's performed one. Unless you live in an area with completely spiritually dead clergy (and thus completely useless on the supernatural combat end of things) you should be able to get some answers. Asking someone here's probably not going to be particularly helpful, even I can only provide secondhand information, and most everyone else is just doing guesswork based off the manual.

In any event, you'll get more reliable information in case you do have a problem. Just don't go looking for trouble, prodding fallen spirits is like throwing rocks at a bear.


5618b1  No.700064

>>699663

Jesus gave us all the authority to do such things but your faith in him needs to be unshakeable. Yes it is written in the bible.

>Matt 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power

against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness

and all manner of disease.

>Mark 16:15-18.. the “Great Commission.” It says, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. And these signs

will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and

they will recover.” And Matthew 28:19-20 records a bit more of what Jesus

said regarding the great commission. “Go therefore and make disciples of

all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of

the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Luke 10:1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and

place, whither he himself would come.

2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers

are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth

labourers into his harvest.

Luke 10:8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such

things as are set before you:

9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is

come nigh unto you.

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying,

Lord, even the devils [NKJV: demons] are subject unto us through thy name.

18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over

all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you;

but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Acts 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs

and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in

Solomon’s porch.

13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified

them.

14 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and

women.)

15 Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on

beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might

overshadow some of them.

16 There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem,

bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they

were healed every one.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and

preached Christ unto them.

6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip

spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.

7 For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were

possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were

healed.

It is your DUTY as a follower of Christ to do these things.


80c3be  No.700212

>>699826

I addressed that brother,

>>699793

>Yes they can, even demons don't deny God and would be more than willing to speak truths and masquerade about if it meant corrupting someone.

>>699826

>spiritually dead

Not often so. There's a hilarious trend of referring the superstitious to other denominations for "demonic" problems, because time and again it's because they need new pipes, electrical lines, etc.; and they're unwilling to admit that there is a reasonable mundane explanation.


65fa58  No.700500

>>700212

That might be over the top, but I have a real problem with discounting the possibility of supernatural attacks in general. Possession is quite real, and not as uncommon as you'd think. That's also something people are doing, perhaps in reaction to thinks like that but also people who just simply do not believe in Heaven or Hell…which also includes an increasing number of clergy…


e48bdc  No.700504

Angels have bird wings, while Demons have bat wings.


e86e72  No.700513

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>>700504

Very helpful




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