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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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043aec  No.698160

/Christian/, there’s been something bugging me for a while and I really wanted to get it off my chest. As an ex-occultist/nihilist/agnostic sort of guy, I’m currently trying to come to terms with a concept of an afterlife. But I need some help brushing some previous thoughts off.

I wanted to discuss Nietzche’s concept of the eternal recurrence theory, and I thought it could be appropriate to talk of it here since it seems to be an “Anti-Christian” sort of view on death. The concept isn’t widely discussed or at least refuted, but it seems to be the most terrifying view on death for many. I couldn’t be bothered asking /fringe/ or anyone else on their view since they’re nothing but a bunch of larpers.

>What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more' … Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return

Help me out, what is the biggest contradiction, scientifically and philosophically, to the theory of Eternal Reoccurrence?

043aec  No.698162

And yes, I realize the eternal return story is some ubermensch mental test presented by Nietzche, but there's still the concern over the possibility of such a fate.


050805  No.698174

>>698160

>Help me out, what is the biggest contradiction, scientifically

It's not an observable/empirical hypothesis, in fact it is totally impossible to support scientifically, so the scientific objection is that it's groundless, can't be falsified, can't be demonstrated even in principle.

>a demon tells you….

>contradiciton and… philosophically, to the theory of Eternal Reoccurrence?

#1 Don't trust what a demon says.

#2 The worldview it requires is nonsensical, it's just materialism/nihilism on infinite repeat. Who created this predetermined world of infinite return where nothing changes from cycle to cycle? It just appeared by itself and repeats for no rhyme or reason? No reason to believe this.

> I realize the eternal return story is some ubermensch mental test presented by Nietzche,

Even as a mental test its kind of goofy, when taken seriously one realizes that nothing he does is his own will, but instead predetermined by some vague external mediator….bleh


26f5e8  No.698176

https://soundcloud.com/thomisticinstitute/fr-white-op-after-christ-understanding-nietzsches-postmodern-critique-of-christianity

might find this interesting, is a good lecture.

for the actual idea it wouldn't be noticed even it's just dumb

it's like saying hey what if there is a parallel universe that is exactly the same you have no way interacting with

I haven't read nietzche but I can't imagine it's more then a dumb thought excersize as an actual "theological" idea it's totally valueless

a gif doesn't change if you loop it a bunch of times it's still the same gif


043aec  No.698179

>>698176

>>698174

The amusing thing is that people that I meet who obsess over Nietzsche, and Nietzsche himself, are the furthest characters away from the ubermensch possible.

I sort of read it as a mental test of "if you don't find yourself comfortable with the idea, you're not an ubermensch."

I had to ask to make sure though.


18ca92  No.698218

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>Reoccurring lifetimes

>Cycles

>Ubermensch mindset

Nietzche is a Pagan larper




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