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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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927ef5  No.697977

>About 13 percent of American adults are former Catholics – people who were raised in the faith but now say they have no religion, or converted to Protestantism or other beliefs, according to a survey by Pew Research Center.

>At the other end of the spectrum, 2 percent of U.S. adults report converting to Catholicism.

>Overall, there are 6.5 former Catholics for every convert to the religion in the U.S. – a far higher ratio of losses than any other religion in the country, researchers found.

>'It never connected with me,' said Oakdale, New York resident Aria Dapree, of leaving Catholicism. 'My mother actually taught religion in the house when I was young. It was weird stories. Jonah (and the whale), the Ark, all kinds of weird fantasy stories.'

>The 62-year-old said 'inclusion' was the biggest reason she left the church, particularly Catholic opposition to homosexuality and the whole spectrum of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

>'Love thy neighbour? Well there's all kinds of neighbors,' Dapree said.

>That attitude – and the 'culture wars' over sex before marriage and other choices that conflict with Catholicism – is a common reason people fall away from the church, said Dennis M. Doyle, a Catholic theologian and professor of religious studies at the University of Dayton.

>'The secular world kind of grinds down the nature of religiousness and then with the culture wars a lot of outward manifestations of religion seem to appear more extreme,' he said.

>'These have been very difficult issues for centuries in the Catholic Church,' he added. 'I don't think we (as Catholics) need to flip over and say, "Everything goes and let's reopen the bath houses for everybody," but I don't think it's as easy as "what we always thought is true."'

>The American Catholic Church has more than 17,000 parishes across the country, with roughly 51 million adults – or one-fifth of the U.S. population – counting themselves as believers.

>Catholics are spread across the country, with 27 percent living in the South, 26 percent in the Northeast, 26 percent in the West and 21 percent in the Midwest, according to Pew.

>Even believers don't think everything is perfect, with 60 percent of Catholics saying they think the church should allow priests to marry and women to become priests.

>In addition, nearly half of American Catholics believe that the church should recognize and accept gay marriage.

>For some American Catholics, sex abuse scandals and the cover-ups that ensued may have been enough to drive them away, Doyle said, though it's unclear how many have left the church for that reason.

>A bigger issue, Doyle said, has been a large cultural shift in which churches are no longer the primary social opportunity and glue for Americans.

>'If you go back to the late 19th and the first half of the 20th century, Catholics were immigrants and they were the poor and there were great numbers of them, and they were mostly in the cities and they had this subculture that held them together,' he said.

>’As Catholics became more educated and affluent overall, and as they become more oriented to the suburbs and less this great sociological mass in the cities, there's been a lot of social changes taking place,' Doyle added.

>Another contributing factor has been the decreased enrolment in Catholic schools, said Sister Katarina Schuth, a professor emerita of the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota.

>'Those who do attend elementary and secondary are much more likely to stay in the church because they know more about the church,' she said.

>The 'rise of science' has also increasingly become the place where young Americans go for answers instead of the church, Schuth said.

>She often speaks publicly about efforts to draw young people back into the church – something Schuth insists must be done in a respectful manner.

>'Integrity is number one,' Schuth said. 'Just being open and listening to people, young people especially … You don't have to be talking at them all the time.'

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5839c1  No.697996

>>697977

WE MUST STAND WITH FRANCIS


71098a  No.698009

>appeal to atheists

>it just turns Catholics atheists rather than atheists Catholic

Also quote from Pope Francis:

>there was this metal thing that was glowing red and was really really hot. And then when I touched it, it burnt me! How did this happen I didnt expect it at all!


142e42  No.698015

>>697977

>leaving your religion because a temporary office holder rustles your jimmies

Those people were never Catholic to begin with. Good riddance.


3bb370  No.698057

>>698015

>temporary office holder

Who happens to be the mouthpiece of God on earth, according to your doctrine


694bd6  No.698074

>>698015

You say that like it's a bad thing to not be apart of your pagan cult


e68dc7  No.698146

>>698074

you will find out from the Bride-groom whether or not you accepted His Bride

>>698015

It's all true. This isn't even remotely the first crisis/scandal we've had to go through, and until the end of days, it will not be the last.


e9cc8c  No.698196

They're all nominal/just cultural anyway.

Pope Benedict XVI said the Church will enter another great period, but it will be much smaller.

Most of the problems nowadays is because of all the cultural stuff among the lay and the clerics.


4811ad  No.698254

>>698196

We are here

>67So Jesus asked the Twelve, “Do you want to leave too?” 68Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life.




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