/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>696164

>Where in the bible does it mention something of this ideal?

Ecclesiastes; all is vanity

>>696164

>>D&D is the devil's game

Not this meme. D&D has/had (before it was infected by SJWs) many Christian values. Gary Gygax was Christian, there is objective good and evil, and you are fighting demons, not worshipping them.

>>696164

>larping altrighter

>implying that they are deluded/race isn't real

>>696218

I'm a race realist, but Vargfags are retarded.

>>696222

Of course they are.

>muh placenta

>god is just a metaphor for nature

They are bottomfeeders even for pagans.

>>696228

Because God created nature, he is literally supernatutal.

>>696228

It makes sense to me because God created all that is real and existant. The more we stray away from god's work the more we are vulnerable to sin.

I'm not trying to make a new religion, but just put some understanding with our mortal realm

>>696224

The placenta thing is a bit hokey due to the trees growing from the root into a tree, not the other way around like the placenta does it, which transports lifeblood to the root, so to speak.

Otherwise, don't be so dismissive.

Tree worship is in our language, both English and Germanic.

Tree trunk, trunk of body.

Tree crown, crown of head.

Stammbaum (Family tree)

Stammtisch (the thing at the pub where working males talk to one another about life and hardships)

Stamm ( literal tribe, btw Stamm means trunk)

Trieb (Drive/urge, the rouse for action, the sapling of a tree.

Trees are connected to humans in the Germanic language, of which English is an offshoot. Another plant related word for something generative and relation describing, etc.

Lind/Linde (mild/mildness, from linden tree)

Lindes Urteil (mild judgment, oaks were grave offense courts, lindens were small fry stuff, mild stuff)

Et cetera.

These things are not randomly chosen, humans do not do random things unless they are insane, and even then.

>>696262

A thing to note, though.

In German, words for Placenta are Mothers Cake and Fruits Cake

(Mutterkuchen & Frutchkuchen)

Fruchtbar = Fertile

Frucht = Fruit

Befruchten = inseminate

Samen = Seed (Sperm)

I could go on, but seriously, life and trees/plants are long long long married in our language(s).

For a reason.

>>696262

>>696266

>The placenta thing

Explain more please

>>696262

>>696266

I hope you're not saying God is trees.

>>696274

Well if he is, then he's literally being a Schlomo. Look up "Etz Chaim" (eng. lit. 'Tree of Life') in the Jewish Kabbalah.

>>696288

It's not the matter of a video game destroying demons is wrong, it's the fact you are immersing yourself in a false world not created by God. You're assuming false roles to fight false battles for a meaningless conclusion.

>>696289

See >>696305

Sometimes visions and fictional worlds are created by God or serve His purpose.

>>696312

Interesting point. Everything in moderation. The devil is often alluring, he can pull us in with temptations of what we love.

It's important to note that sin is sin, and any medium that glorifies it should be avoided.

That being said, I did notice that certain things like games, music, and browsing certain websites make me feel spiritually impaired, even though they don't glorify sin. My only explanation for this, is that it is the result of carnality. Living for the flesh has a negative impact on our relationship with God.

>>696318

Of course, anything (except things like prayer) is bad when done too often, but there's nothing wrong with getting together with some friends once a fortnight to play d&d for a few hours.

>>696349

Well you're substantially right, but may be missing an aspect. What you're likely feeling is the social isolation that often comes with over use of technology, whether it be over indulgence of tv, internet, vidya, etc. It is generally not the moral content of said mediums, but that they fill an over-sized niche within our lives that rightly ought to be filled with social interaction (that is, ROBUST social interaction like interacting socially at church or with friends and family, whereas things like the over-abundance of sterile, transactional micro-exchanges in public or at work accomplish the same thing as isolation [it's worth looking at the results and commentary surrounding the "mouse utopia" experiment if you're unfamiliar]). In this way it is largely irrelevant whether the activity is in theory pro-spiritual, since without nourishment our social being will whither and die, taking our spiritual being with it.

It's not that you're praying too much, but that you're nourishing your social life to little, social ills beget spiritual ones and vice-versa. Even monastics and ascetics generally didn't live alone, they had a rich and fulfilling social life with their brothers. Those who did live alone had a deserved reputation for being (or going) nuts.

This is something that Christians and traditional people fail to grok, that the social and spiritual are closely related but synonymous domains, and that the social won't sort itself out with just more fervent prayer (absent an obvious miracle, but mostly God works through us). How did television and movies become degenerate? How has faith and morality been eroded further in spirit and in statute with each successive generation? It certainly wasn't that their prayers to Satan were more numerous or fervent than ours to God, it was through accumulating social capital, biding their time, and sticking the shiv into the public's back once they could get away with it.

So take a tactical lesson from the Satanists, and accumulate social capital, make friends and be active in your community, go to church, even make friends with members of the local police force and fire department, go to PTA meetings, run for local office if you can do it. If you're an art or tech or law fag, hold your nose and apply for positions within pozzed corporations and keep your mouth shut until you've got the position to start undercutting them, or the capital and know-how to defect and become a competitor. You'll be more fulfilled and you'll do a lot more damage shooting the devil in the back with a clear shot being a respected member of the community with a lot of friends than as a lonely NEET on a Mongolian basket-weaving forum. If all else fails then just be a good parent to well-socialized kids, teach them well and prepare them to have to do more, because the way things are going, they will.

Sorry for the wall of text but it's worth saying whenever it's remotely relevant.

>>696485

Thanks for taking the time to write this, you do make some good points! And the 'mouse utopia' experiment was very interesting, I hadn't seen it before and it's similarities with human-society are quite striking.

You did give me some things to think about, I agree that a malnourished social life will most likely have a huge impact on our spirit, but I'm not convinced it is the biggest factor. At least, not in my case. To give you an idea of my situation, I'm a highly sensitive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_processing_sensitivity) and introvert person, whose chains of extreme social anxiety have loosened only within the last couple of years. As of now, I have little problem interacting with others, but I also have little need for it. In fact, I cannot get sufficient mental rest if I don't spend the vast majority of my time alone.

I think the biggest impact generally comes from the nature of activities and the mindset wherewith we partake in them. The Spirit of the Lord is grieved by sin, and will obviously not be with the people who live in it. If we partake in activities that glorify sin (certain games, music, movies, series, etc), and if we delight in them, then we are glorifying those sins as well. I'm convinced that this has a similar impact as committing the sins themselves.

The carnal mindset has this impact as well, though I believe it to be more subtle. The carnal mind is enmity against God (Romans 8:7), so it's obvious that God's Spirit doesn't abide in those who have a carnal mindset. As you most likely know, carnality means 'worldly'. The 'carnal mind' refers to those who live worldly, to those who live for themselves instead of for God.

I think the biggest reason for the fact that so many "Christians" aren't experiencing (much of) God's presence, is that, while most of them try to get rid of all (well-defined) sin from their lives, they forget that they are no longer their own (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). They still (to a certain extend) live for themselves and want to stay in control of their lives. The only way to get close to God, is to surrender your life completely to Him. This is what it means to forsake everything you have (Luke 14:33), to trust God for everything you need (Matthew 6:24-33), and to acknowledge Him in all your ways (Proverbs 3:5-6).

To get back to my own case of feeling spiritually impaired after certain activities.. Spending hours, playing games, watching series, expanding my movie or music collection… that was me "living for myself". Those things were my treasures, which means that (in those moments) my heart was in them, and not in the Lord. This is in stark contrast with the days I largely spend reading and studying the Bible. In those days I feel more satisfied, at peace, and spiritually alive than ever.

Of course, things like playing a game, watching a show, or listening to music are not inherently evil and we don't have to give them up (unless they glorify sin), but if those things are our treasure, then our heart is not with the Lord, and His Spirit will not be with us, rendering us spiritually impaired or dead.

I guess I'm repaying your wall of text with another one.. but I thought this would be useful as well.

>>697636

Brother, you spoke of myself. Thank you for your words.

>>696222

> Vargfags are retarded.

As much trump worship help make Nu-/pol/ happen. Varg faggoty single handily destroyer race realism. Varg probably done more damage to /pol/ than trump. Varg the text book Definition of degeneracy. Black metal is the one music genre more degenerate than gangsta rap.

>>697865

>Paying video games like a total neet isn't degenerate at all

So dismissive! Sounds like someone doesn't want to stop playing Fortnite. Maybe consider reading the thread and having a bit more of an open mind before you way in your baseless, (1) opinion.

Besides reality is God's creation, disconnection with it is kind of a spit in the face to God. But who knows, maybe you can still find God at one of your tranny filled speed running conventions.

I'd advise if you want to be taken seriously and not as some edgy atheist 15 year old think out your replys first and consider what everyone else has said. Also "The whole bible" is kind of a stupid answer, you know I want a more specific reply and you're just being retarded.

>>696164

>Where in the bible does it mention something of this ideal?

did anyone actually answer this yet?

<4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

<5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

<6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

2 Cornithians 10

>>697666

You are very welcome! Keep your eyes on the prize, brother. Don't let anything distract you from the beautiful things God promised to those who obey Him (John 1:12, John 15:14, 1 John 1:7).

>>697865

>>turning my personal experience of God into universal rules for everybody

My experiences are supported by the Bible.

Also, do you even read before posting?

>>696164

>Everyone is susceptible to a fanatical mind set and can easily be lost in their false belief.

You mean like religion?

>>698397

> But, okay, maybe you feel that you did just that, that this was not an attempt to make any point other than a general one, summarized by your last sentence.

It was indeed a general point I was making. I didn't mean to turn my experience into universal rules (or to make them sound as such). I was using the context of my experience to get to the root cause of the experience itself (carnality), which I elaborated here >>697636

> Maybe it is a communication failure. My apologies if it is.

That's okay, happens to everyone! It's bound to happen when using text to communicate. Pictures like your pic related do help, though. I read your post with a relatively calm but serious British accent.

> This is /christian/, after all, not /considereddiscussionswiththoughtfulreplies/

Sad, but true. Out of all boards, shouldn't this one be like that?

I think in thomism, God is reality (not in a pantheist sense), but idk. maybe thats what you mean?