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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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d3a4e9  No.693126

Not bait I swear - My biggest issues were some doctrine seemingly taught at V2 and beyond, that when reading it in a reasonable sense seemed to be heretical sense and to actually try and read it in a non-heretical sense you seemed to have to do "mental gymastics" - so to speak about them. This troubled me because they were about topics that I personally had a lot more experience with than other people, and so they didn't seem to care or pay attention to it. I was wondering how could the church seemingly at best be misleading and if this was normal, and why I almost seemed cursed to be one of the few people who noticed it - other people seemed to be discarded as sedes or radtrads etc.

After trying my best to get over it and reconcile it, and realizing well technically I must read it non-heretical despite seemingly deceptive or vague wording, the first gift came to me, the death penalth catechism change. Many people woke up. The question was then still, why would seemingly deceptive things be taught from the church, the church being protected from error being stretched to its limits, if these were honest people? Then this all came out, everything seemed so much clearer to me.

I know it may sound strange to some but it almost feels like it's vindicating or comforting. Many people have been woken up, and know they have to read church documents, especially from this era, with intense scrutiny with previous teachings and have to read it all in a non-heretical way. They cannot take things at face value. Many catholics seemed to be lost in cults of personalities around JPII and Francis specifically. People are waking up that it's likely that JPII covered up abuse cases too, and reminds people of what everyone should know, that just because someone is a Saint, they are not infallible. JPII is hardly a doctor of the church, and francis will never be either.

Before all this stuff, I felt like I was one of the few really feeling all these things that were wrong, and was wondering if I was just trying to resolve things that only I was feeling and just people on the fringes. Now my opinions that I and other people were feeling are far more mainstream. The cult of personality has been dropped by many people. For that i'm glad.

7cb944  No.693133

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Its nice that people are realizing the harm of cult of personalities.

Now you have only one final step left.


d3a4e9  No.693145

>>693143

petros is a greek mistranslation of the original english name "henry"


1f0438  No.693178

>>693177

>The Pope claimed jurisdiction outside of spiritual matters

>marriage

>that pope himself gave dispensation

>anything but spiritual


7cb944  No.693182

>>693180

reported


8acaea  No.693206

>>693143

Why would OP join a church that wants to make kids faggots?


d590db  No.693397

>all these deleted posts

This board is a microcosm of the wider problems the Roman Catholics have all over the world.

Very satanic moderators.




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