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From Islam to Christianity, I need some help Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 00:34:34 f12a00 No.686858

So a couple years back I left Islam, it was when I learned about the concept of abrogation (nakash), also seeing how countries turn out based on Islam vs. Christianity, and also seeing how refugees and the muslim world has treated the European people.

Now that I left religion. I wanted nothing to do with God or religion I honestly felt back stabbed by religion (since I thought it was the last and final and true religion) and God.

I feel like an idiot getting myself back stabbed(since it was hammered into my head, without me thinking about what was being hammered into my head).

But you see I can't really live without the idea of God or an all mighty being.

I tried reading stoicism but that felt a little empty for me.

I felt frustrated ever since I left Islam cause not only was my belief in God based on Islamic scripture ( i.e oh Allah must be the true God since Jesus was human and died on cross and the trinity doesn't make sense and Allah is simplier), but also my culture.

If culture, religion and family weren't so intricately intertwined I would guess it would be easy for every muslim to just simply leave the religion and join another.

I feel really intimidated even approaching the thought of Christianity since it is completely different culture, philosphy then what I grew up with, a complete change of your way of life.

Not only that but the things that my muslim friends and family told me about Christianity come back to haunt me (i.e oh christianity creates atheists, it makes the country gay and immoral, just look at the west! Christians are untraditional, you will be happier and have a stable life in Islam )

And to be honest I see the fruits of Christianity in the West, it has degraded and been changed by humans and I do not know whether it is the fault of the Catholics and Protestants or the way Jesus teaches his word that creates and allows this degeneracy that otherwise I wouldn't see in Islamic countries (maybe I am wrong about this, I don't know).

I could be wrong though and I am just following the tree and its fruits. I see Catholic and Protestant countries degenerating and supporting Islam, whereas Orthodox countries (like Russia), understand the dangers of it and even Orthodox priests speaking against it. But again I could be wrong.

So I need some advice on what to do, I am interesting in learning about Christianity but don't want to waste my time learning the endless number of denominations and their Bibles.

Nor do I feel like getting stabbed in the back again by the following the wrong the denomination/religion.

Also after learning which sort of denomination to follow, I will go to that church and hopefully create and make new family/friends/community/culture for myself so I don't get too depressed.

If their is anyone that shares my sort experience with being in Islam and leaving it for Christianity I would love to hear your experience too!!! :)

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 00:42:46 f12a00 No.686864

Sorry I may have posted this twice, the first time I posted I thought it didn't go through

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 00:49:20 395200 No.686867

>>686858

Hello friend, I was born into a protestant background and converted to Catholicism, so I cannot relate to your story. But this video is a short version of one of the most famous Christian apologists Nabeel Qureshi (Rest In Peace) conversion stories from Islam to Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKSuGHXUY_0

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 04:05:39 4f47f5 No.686976

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>>686858

Welcome, the best thing to do for pure condensed "how to be a Christian 101" is read St. Paul's Epistles (you know, the ones Muslim apologists bash for "corrupting" Christianity).

People like to bash Paul because bashing Jesus is just a non-starter because Jesus was so obviously good while Paul is a bit controversial, so people think that they can disagree with Paul and still agree with Jesus. This is just foolishness though if you compare the gospels with Paul's letters.

Another good source is "Mere Christianity" by CS Lewis, a popular recent apologist.

Stoicism wasn't a bad try though, Christians see it as much better than hedonism.

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 04:08:04 4f47f5 No.686977

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>>686858

Also, reserve judgement on denomination for now, just go to different Churches, experience their practices and read up on their beliefs. Choose when you feel informed, not based on feelings.

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 08:32:37 89b597 No.687072

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>Not only that but the things that my muslim friends and family told me about Christianity come back to haunt me (i.e oh christianity creates atheists, it makes the country gay and immoral, just look at the west! Christians are untraditional, you will be happier and have a stable life in Islam ). To be honest I see the fruits of Christianity in the West, it has degraded and been changed by humans and I do not know whether it is the fault of the Catholics and Protestants or the way Jesus teaches his word that creates and allows this degeneracy that otherwise I wouldn't see in Islamic countries (maybe I am wrong about this, I don't know).

It has to do with a lot of institution aimed against our religion, the media teaches against Christianity and introduces subliminal porn, our public schools remove God and any mention of it, our laws go against Christianity, and then come the compromised churches with rainbow flags. The degeneracy of the west is not because of Jesus, or Christianity. It's a result of many small changes to remove Christianity from the youth.

As for your advice, i'd say don't worry about picking a denom yet, just read the bible, and pray to God using the prayer directed at the holy ghost, when you ask for something end your prayer with "in the name of jesus Christ". look at your primary sin and remove it from your life. Talk to God and he will reveal himself to you. To to chuch as much as possible (this will strengthen your bond with God) and make sure it dosen't have rainbow flags and follows the Nicene Creed.

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 18:47:03 5f0ecc No.687146

>>686858

>oh christianity creates atheists, it makes the country gay and immoral, just look at the west! Christians are untraditional, you will be happier and have a stable life in Islam

Your friends and family are right about this. Unfortunately…

>Nor do I feel like getting stabbed in the back again by the following the wrong the denomination/religion.

Use the following words by Jesus in order to find the true religion:

Beware of false Prophets who come to you in lambs' clothing, but from within they are plundering wolves. But by their fruit you will know them. Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles? So every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree is not able to produce bad fruit, neither a bad tree to produce good fruit. Every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and falls into the fire. Therefore by their fruit you will know them. (Matthew 7:15-20)

>intimidated even approaching the thought of Christianity since it is completely different culture

If you are from the Middle East, then the Orthodox Church and the eastern rite of the Catholic Church should feel closest to you.

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 18:53:16 1c6cee No.687150

You keep talking about religion's influence on society or lack thereof. This is not good at all. The nations of this world are temporary, the societies of our world are only dust, but the Church, which is the Kingdom of God, is eternal. Look into the doctrine (including worship), not the practical side of it.

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 21:17:49 940783 No.687209

>>686858

I left Islam when I went to secondary school and became an Atheist OP. Stayed that way for over 10 years. I would love always at people who had faith. Then I started learning about meditation and stuff. It lead to Buddhism. Then to Taoism. Then to Quakerism. And now I'm a Catholic.

Nothing brought me happiness but the Catholic Church. My parents are still Muslim and are upset with me but what can you do?

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 21:36:58 76e88f No.687215

>>686858

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923

>Putin opens Moscow's largest mosque, warns against extremists

>Islam is the second largest religion in Russia after Orthodox Christianity, making up around 15 percent of the population.

You sure?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Russia#Statistics

>Despite a significant reduction in the abortion to birth ratio since the mid-1990s, the countries of the former Soviet Union maintain the highest rate of abortions in the world.

Wow very Christian country.

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 22:00:25 f12a00 No.687221

>>687146

Yeah since I am south asian I looking into churches in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, a lot of them are catholic due to the Portuguese settling there before. I think St. Thomas the apostale went to south India as well to preach

Christanon 08/12/18 (Sun) 22:03:21 31d76f No.687222

>>687215

Is it safe to visit Russia or could someone abort me?

Christanon 08/13/18 (Mon) 01:31:59 b88375 No.687262

I see this charge levelled quite a bit at Christians, the points I'd emphasise would be:

a) Islamic countries are hardly moral themselves, e.g. sexual assault/rape statistics in Pakistan/Bangladesh, exploitation of migrants in Gulf countries, Saudi foreign policy

b) >>687150 this post also contains a truth about Christianity, that unlike Islam which seeks to contain the Umma in a caliphate, Christianity emphasises the City of God and not of man (Augustine's City of God answers your point OP, only it's directed at pagans rather than Muslims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_God)

Christanon 08/13/18 (Mon) 01:36:06 b88375 No.687263

>>687262

c) The Great Apostasy of Christians and Christian nations is also foretold by Scripture (2 Thessalonians 2) as an event that precedes the coming of the Antichrist, so it's not exactly surprising this is happening in our sinful age

Christanon 08/13/18 (Mon) 13:07:59 6e0e3c No.687395

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>I feel really intimidated even approaching the thought of Christianity since it is completely different culture, philosphy then what I grew up with, a complete change of your way of life.

Christianity is not a change of culture. It's not a set of man-made traditions. It's the truth. Read God's word and don't make assumptions based on Satan's lies told from his goons in his religions.

God loves his people and has promised us eternal life with him if we accept his sacrifice on the cross. You will have everything in Christ: fulfilment; love; humility; strength; wisdom; etc.

Mathew 7:11

If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

Don't forget that even the "prophet" Muhammed didn't know whether Allah will allow him into Heaven or not.

>And to be honest I see the fruits of Christianity in the West, it has degraded and been changed by humans and I do not know whether it is the fault of the Catholics and Protestants or the way Jesus teaches his word that creates and allows this degeneracy that otherwise I wouldn't see in Islamic countries (maybe I am wrong about this, I don't know).

All teachings can be perverted. Freedom of religion laws in America for example ban all religions from public schools. The Bible however speaks of the last days as being like the days of Sodom and Gomorra; full of perverted filth and evil. As for what's happening to Western nations, I believe that God is testing and chastising us:

Hebrews 12:6-8

For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.