/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>684284

You're coming at it wrong. You can't convince someone to be a Christian. Even if you do, that doesn't mean they truly believe since it can all just be head knowledge. The absolute best way to convert people is simply by being a good Christian. Let your life be your testimony and your character be your evangelism. There's really no better way since it is ultimately up to God who is predestined for eternal glory or damnation

>>684284

Now that you have come to know Christ, you are the tool God will use to bring about His people to salvation. God doesn't just pick the intellectuals to go evangelise, but also the meek.

>>684284

now it's time for you to educate yourself. we live in an age of unparalleled access to information and resources. you have a computer and internet, you have no excuse. defend the faith. believe that for every question there is an answer. study and keep researching more. you were lucky that God called you himself, but you have to continue the work and call other people.

the lord said to his disciples do not worry about what you say, open your mouth and the spirit will tell you what to say

"But when they shall deliver you up, take no thought how or what to speak: for it shall be given you in that hour what to speak. For it is not you that speak, but the Spirit of your Father that speaketh in you."

when defending the faith, there have been many times where i'll just say something or type something hurriedly, like i can't even resist hitting back, and later on i'll remember what i said and it's like i'm learning something. some interesting argument that i haven't even thought of before. i wonder, how did i come up with something that that on the spot?

now i'm not saying you don't have to learn, you have to learn, you need resources, you need to be able to crush these fools (intellectually), but God will assist you. Fight the devil, and the devil will flee.

"but resist the devil, and he will fly from you."

>>684298

Can you suggest some readings? Preferably from an Orthodox perspective?

I'm reading this article and it seems helpful. http://www.pravoslavie.ru/7174.html

>>684309

looked a bit of that and looked trash, i'm catholic and orthodox people doing all they can trying to trash our saints. bitter ass people. if you were born ortho i'm sorry for you, i find that church to be abhorrent in many regards.

but anyways if you are just trying to defend the faith from atheists, then check out the last superstition by edward feser. i'd also recommend reading st. augustine.

if you were from a prot family, stop larping and join the catholic church. even if you are orthodox you should, you should too anyways. but i'll try and be respectful and not get into that stuff. my impression was that you wanted to evangelize atheists and such. augustine has some excellent apologetic work especially when it comes to the trinity. i wish more people has read his book on the trinity. many nonsense objection and heresy that can be thought of he addresses it, and he has an ingenius way of viewing the trinity.

(that we are made in the image of God, your memory being the father, your reason, words being the Son, and your will being the Holy Spirit)

>>684314

with the modernization of the catholic church I could never see myself converting, I dunno what the future holds for you guys, so much variation and weird popes, and bizarre teachings coming in. Confuses me.

I'm very comfortable with orthodoxy, and ya my family is orthodox.

>29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

>30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

Its ok, Anon. No one was destined to preach. But you should live as a Good Christian and perhaps you will convert many more with this. >>684357

>>684367

>No one was destined to preach

*not everyone

◄ Matthew 18:3 ►

and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Men see with their eyes and hear with their ears. They decide what to believe and what not to believe. It's all a matter of faith. I have faith in Christ because I want to have faith in Christ. The same goes for all other Christians. It's the Holy Spirit that makes us desire God.

Try this OP

https://www.amazon.com/Irenaeus-Orthodox-Apologetic-Methodology-Presuppositionalism/dp/1545576564

>>684284

You are called to live like a Saint not all Saints are the same. Not all Saints converted millions but they became the example for millions.

>>684284

>I can’t convert anyone to Christianity

>I

Conversion isn’t about you or your capabilities. Christians are merely a vessel for the Holy Spirit. It’s great that you seek to bring more people into the faith, but don’t fall into egotism while doing so.

>>684284

1 Peter 3:15

>But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear

You don't need to attempt to convince anyone, because you personally don't have the capability of doing that anyway. What you are called to do though is to share the reason for your hope in God, and pray that they will be open to the Holy Spirit working within them.

The most charitable thing you can do is pray for others' conversion. The rosary is the best prayer for this. Do it daily. And the dominican rosary + Fatima prayer: just the 15 mysteries for the 150 psalter and 153 fishes that the apostles catch.

>>684284

How many dialectic methods did Paul used for his conversion? How much A + B calculations did he had to do?

Westerners have a twisted understanding of faith because of scholasticism.

>>694725

Fatima is what?

Converting people to Christianity is a sin. Avoid doing it if you can.

>>694750

what's the argument behind this thought.

God is the one who converts individuals, but other people can be guides in that process