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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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08eb3c No.679976

Wtf is this shit? I should have made my research before ordering this. I thought this was an orthodox book on the trinity.

>“until William Paul Young wrote his worldwide bestselling novel, The Shack, in the past decade. For the first time since fourth-century Cappadocia, the Trinity actually became an inspired subject of conversation and rather pleasant questioning in homes and restaurants. And it continues!” So our dates are AD 381 to 2007, and the hero is Young (who returns the compliment in a fulsome foreword). That’s a lot of dust to dust off a daring doctrine!

Already in the introduction I know this book is going to be absolute garbage, but let's see what this californian friar has to say about the trinity

>For the sake of our minds, it’s helpful to identify three persons, but even the three names are largely ‘placeholders,’ and a thousand beautiful names for God can be interchanged with each of them.” What is the all-important thing? “The all-important thing is to get the energy and quality of the relationship between these Three—that’s the essential mystery that transforms us.” 

>But you know what I believe? I think the spaces in between the members of the Trinity are unmistakably feminine. The forms or manifestations strike me as the masculine dimension, and the diffused, intuitive, mysterious, and wonderful unconscious in-between, that’s the feminine. And that’s where the essential power is—the space between the persons more than the persons individually.

Of course…

>Some mystics who were on real journeys of prayer took this message to its consistent conclusion: creation is thus “the fourth person of the Blessed Trinity”!

Why do they keep getting away with this shit? This guy is an actual franciscan monk (I know) and teacher of catholicism. Anyway, what's the best book for an orthodox understanding of the Holy Trinity from the Fathers?

31109d No.679978

I thought Mary was the fourth person of the Roman Catholic Trinity


cdefd1 No.679980

>>679978

The Baptist smells a thread that is tangentially related to Catholicism and slithers out of it's hole to shitpost


08eb3c No.679981

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This guy actually sell his book as the traditional understanding of the trinity by the early church fathers


6fd763 No.679982

>>679976

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


3b78b9 No.679983

>>679976

>Why do they keep getting away with this shit?

It's called the "First Amendment". You know … the same thing that allows this board to exist at all? You need to stop kvetching over every little perceived slight and focus on your own personal faith.


ea63dd No.679988

>>679983

You make an excellent case for doing away with that amendment.


08eb3c No.679990

>>679983

This book is confusing hundred of thousands of catholic and even pushing some form of goddess worship along with new age bs. It's satanic subversion


3b78b9 No.679991

>>679988

Believe me, you don't want that amendment repealed.

>>679990

If your faith is strong, then such things won't affect you at all.


6fd763 No.679992

>>679988

It would be used against you as well. It's all it would take to make Christianity illegal.


3b78b9 No.679994

>>679993

The First Amendment is way more than free speech. You should calm down, stop using such profane language and insults, and do a little research.


ddfa09 No.679997

>what's the best book for an orthodox understanding of the Holy Trinity from the Fathers?

Boris Bobrinskoy's "The Mystery of the Trinity". Part 1 is about the Trinity in scriptures. Part 2 is about the Trinity in the Divine Liturgy. Part 3 is about the Trinity in patristics.


08eb3c No.680007

>>679997

I'll check this out, thanks


3a06aa No.680008


977e13 No.680027

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>>679993

>the First Amendment wasn't meant to grant everybody complete free speech.

It was meant to grant MEN free speech. That's the key. They, the founders, said nothing about foreigners.

>>679976

>Why do they keep getting away with this shit?

They're just abusing things that don't really belong to them, that's why.

>>Wtf is this shit?

Damnable heresy. I'm not sure where he gets support but whoever wrote this book shouldn't be getting support.


28f6b9 No.680034

>>679983

Take your own advice. Stop kvetching over other people's kvetching and focus on your own personal faith


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b00e96 No.680219

>>679983

>applying a 18th century masonic ideal to a classic/medieval faith

Imagine being this much of a tool.


6bb486 No.682129

>>679991

>Lol, like how does society collapsing and people being duped into being the pawns of satan effect you at all?

It's almost like these silly plebs that you should be charitable toward others, good on you for reminding us that we should all just be enlightened individuals, nothing anyone else does could ever effect you, and you shouldn't care.

>>680219

This, the "Freedom of Expression" fags are the ones who got us into this mess, and guess which groups rights to free association, expression, self determination, etc are constantly being eroded? Nowadays through most of the western world it implicitly only applies to minorities and anti-christians. The idea of freedom of speech as the ideal has been a huge net negative (like basically all instances of liberalism), and is only now doing SOME good since anti-christian evil is ascendant in the world, and that's why in practice it won't be around for too much longer, one way or the other.

>>679976

Seems like heretical garbage. Try to get a refund OP. And if you really want to help and have got spare time, write a letter to your Archbishop, and one to whichever one is in charge of that monk's diocese, and let them know how you feel.


d67b15 No.682131

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>>679976

>Using Orthodox icon to spread heterodox heresies


3b78b9 No.682142

>>682129

>nothing anyone else does could ever effect you

My kingdom is not of this world.


3ee2e5 No.682217

>>680027

Saw his book about living like a Jesuit in Galway, covered in Jew York Times praise and other heathen promotion. Looks like a really good book if you don't recognise his name as a fag enabler.




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