>>677748
Ah, that. I never considered it worthy of a full reply, but since you have requested it (presumably out of some doubt sparked by it) I shall attempt to provide one.
>They undermine the trinity which is rank paganism
That is a weighty claim which requires equally weighty substantiation. I propose that the argument will actually take it for granted, rather than prove it.
>Monotheism can only be undermined when the imperfect reasoning abilities of men are placed above revelation
I disagree. As the muslim will say just a few sentences later in direct contradiction to this, monotheism is more rational than polytheism. Reason reveals a creator of all things, who having created it, is also master of it. This leaves no providence to other gods, so why are they fit to be called gods? Indeed, reason reveals these other gods to be mere creatures, since they are so limited in their alleged providence (a god of thunder, a god of war, a god of love), but the creator, being before all limitation, is naturally unlimited. Therefore idolatry is incredibly irrational, since only God is worthy of worship.
>which is exactly what the trinity doctrine does
That is ridiculous. The trinity is often criticized as being absurd, Christians have argued the lack of reason in it proves its divine origin (since no man would think of it). No Christian has ever believed in the trinity because of how rational it is. The only good reason to believe in the trinity is because it is how God revealed Himself to be in the Holy Bible.
>Divinity
I think they're saying this instead of God because they're considering monotheism and polytheism equally. That's an error. The eminence of God and the creatureliness of the gods is such an obvious and fundamental separating difference that anyone who believes in the former should take it for granted – unless the muslims are just pagans who worship one strange god instead of many.
>Divinity can be seen as “irrational” in the sense that the human mind alone cannot be expected to properly quantify it
The human mind can absolutely never quantify it. This muslim keeps thinking of God as like creation. God is so far beyond our created minds that at best we might be able to comprehend the reasons why we cannot comprehend His majesty.
>hence the need for revelation from above
We do not "need" God to reveal Himself. That He does is a tremendous condescension that requires inestimable gratitude. We already know who God is from our first thoughts, what we need is to be graciously given eyes to see and ears to hear, so we may stop suppressing the truth of Him which we know in our hearts.
>In this same manner Unitarianism is less irrational than Trinitarianism
Ignoring their inconsistent accusations of rationalism and irrationality, we know God through reason because the creation reveals in its form how it interacted with its creator. To be crude, it only shows us the "exterior" of God. The question of unitarianism and trinitarianism is about God's "interior", the things which have been made cannot shine a light on that. However, I'm sure the muslim knows that. The reason he claims this is because he is presupposing his thesis, that the trinity is paganism. In reality this statement creates undue distinction with the previous one, since what he actually means is that unitarianism is monotheism, and trinitarianism is polytheism.
>God is fully Beyond-Being because God is not limited in anyway like/by/or part of God’s creation
Existence is neither a limiting nor created attribute. God is not "beyond being" because God is the very definition of being. In fact, we might even say that being the greatest of God's attributes, since above all else, God is. This is why more than any of the other things which are properly His name like Lord or God, His name is YHWH, which is derived from Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh, "I am that I am" (or, more precisely, "I am substantially being").
>yet Trinity theory is not revealed in scripture
Unsurprisingly he does not even reference scripture, he merely asserts the condtradiction.
>While most though not all Christians accept the trinity theory axiomatically
I must correct this. There is no such thing as a Christian who denies the trinity. As scripture says, "Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also".
>Catholics
Perhaps he should've spent more time forming a legitimate argument than ranting about papists.
>Trinitarian Christianity holds that the Godhead is the ideal form of and over the “Three Persons” that share the same essence.
I can only assume that was ignorance, since what he described is not Christianity. The Godhead is merely the three together. Divinity does not increase by us considering them altogether.
All in all, I would say I did not rebut an argument against the trinity.