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>>674759

There are female deacons in the Bible. It's an canonical, not theological, impediment.

Amoris laetitia blatantly contradicts Casti connubii so there’s no reason a future move allowing women deacons couldn’t contradict Ordinatio sacerdotalis

>>674764

Ordinatio sacerdotalis is priestly, not deaconal

>>674767

Modern deacons are ordained though, it’s holy order

While there were women deacons in history, they were not ordained and mainly served the purpose of baptising women (which was done in the nude by full immersion)

>>674759

Did you read the article?

>Could the Catholic Church institute a “female diaconate”?

>The notion of a “female diaconate” is not defined by the document. If it were to refer to the office of the “deaconess,” which ceased to exist in the Catholic Church a thousand years ago, it would not indicate that women may enter the clergy as deacons, but rather that they may be given a non-clerical title that would seem to be no longer applicable in the Church.

>“Deaconesses,” according to the Catholic Encyclopedia, were women who were assigned to tasks that were only seen as proper for >women to carry out, such as the baptism of adult women, who entered into the baptismal font naked, or the delivery of Holy Communion to sick women alone in their homes.

>The Council of Nicea, the first ecumenical council held in the Catholic Church, declared expressly that “deaconesses” were not members of the clergy, and did not have an ordination.

>>674783

>>674780

The problem in Nicea was laying on of hands - that was why they weren't considered ordained. Chalcedon canon 15 orders the laying on of hands. You now have new information. Has your view changed in light of it?

>>674761

True but we both know that the aspirations don't stop there. If this happens they'll want to rush forward and start pushing female priests.

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>>675260

This is exactly what happened in the Anglican church, the supporters of female deacons immediately started pushing for the ordination of women to 'regularise' Holy Orders

Things that will never happen.

There used to be female deaconess, but they were never ordained like men.

I don't know if it's a good thing to bring the practice back or if it is needed, but we shouldn't do it otherwise people would try to push a line a bit further (which is impossible since JPII said infallibily that women can't be ordained and must remain in the kitchen)

>>675629

The patristics show they were ordained. Saying otherwise is eisegetic.

>>675706

does ordain mean Ordain? Not necessarily.

>>675706

http://www.sensustraditionis.org/UnityHolyOrders.pdf

>>675261

literal demons - i just checked out that channel. they actually believe they are ordaining people. what is wrong with them, why are they calling themselves catholic. this is LARPing to a new level. kill them all.

>>675718

>>675722

Guys, come on. You wouldn't twist the arm of scripture like this, why do you twist history?

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee"

Take that roasties lel

>>675727

She's woke bro

>>674761

She was just a message bearer

They belong in the kitchen not at the pulpit/altar.

>>675261

What a boring number; one note plink plink drove me bonkers after 10 seconds.

>>675732

>kill them all.

No, psycho.