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Yes

absolutely

>>674492

Yes.

Also, what a coincidence; this was posted right after I finished watching The Exorcism of Emily Rose

Si

yes

>>674492

Yes, but not the video you posted.

>>674492

yes but plenty of videos of it are scams to make money

genuine exorcism isn't a holywood mimicry

>>674492

absolutely, its just that the (((media))) enjoys producing exaggerated over the top nonsense to paint Christianity in a bad light

>>674492

Yes, but its nothing like in the movies.

Its essentially an administration of the gospel towards the possessed.

>>674533

That is the corniest picture of sam hyde i've ever seen, and that's saying something.

Do you think Jesus was pranking us when he exorcised?

>>674492

Nope.

>>674492

its in the bible, even people who where not 'with' Christ could still exorcise with his name.

Yes. I'm aware of one case of demonic oppression after exposure to the occult cited by baptism. Guy was an atheist beforehand, raised without religion.

>>674799

Care to explain your position?

>>674492

Once again, 99 times out of 100 people are fooling themselves

>>674799

>Christ lied

Heretic.

>>674502

I just have a hard time believing a human being is capable of removing demons from someone else's home or body. Possession is a very personal issue and can only be truly solved by destroying your demons yourself (unless you're God of course)

>>674591

>>674799

b8

>>674859

It's not human beings doing the removing, it's the Holy Spirit. If people could remove a conscious, malevolent being on their own, Christ would not have had to command them to leave.

>>674960

Exactly. It's worth noting, like the other miracles Jesus performs, exorcisms are dependent on faith. There were a few demons that the disciples couldn't cast out because their faith was too weak.

>When they came to the crowd, a man came up to Jesus, falling on his knees before Him and saying, “Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is a lunatic and is very ill; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. “I brought him to Your disciples, and they could not cure him.” And Jesus answered and said, “You unbelieving and perverted generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring him here to Me.” And Jesus rebuked him, and the demon came out of him, and the boy was cured at once.

>Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not drive it out?” And He said to them, “Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you

>>674961

Don't forget this incident detailed in Acts 19:

>11 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:

>12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.

>13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.

>14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.

>15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

>16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

>>674970

Beat them and made sure they had to endure humiliation in their retreat. Apparently they love to degrade their hosts: soiling themselves, eating disgusting things, vomiting, etc.

>>674973

Oh. I thought it raped them.

>>674974

It would have been stated if it were so.

Exposure was a common practice of humiliating one's enemy.

2 Samuel 10:4

>Wherefore Hanun took David's servants, and shaved off the one half of their beards, and cut off their garments in the middle, even to their buttocks, and sent them away.

>>674975

>Exposure was a common practice of humiliating one's enemy.

Ah, I see. That makes the story of Noah and Ham make a little more sense too, since I thought that was also an instance where there had to be more to it than meets the eye. Seeing him in the nude didn't seem to be enough to be worth a curse put on all his descendants but I guess it's a cultural thing where it's a great shame.

>>674976

He saw his father blackout drunk and did nothing to restore his dignity, whereas his brothers had the decency to cover him. That's why he was cursed.

>>674976

Also, Noah didn't curse *all* of Ham's descendants, he specifically said Canaan. He didn't mention Cush, Mizraim, or Phut.