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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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c0b842 No.673854

What does /christian/ think of the Seventh day Adventists? Is it heresy?

cdf155 No.673865

>Judaizing

Ew


1a7daa No.673866

>>673854

it's modernist gobbledygook.

>>673865

also this^


29e36a No.673867

>>673866

Frigg off orthodog, Jay dyer.

At least they believe in end times.


00f474 No.673868

>>673854

They are among the healthiest and longest living people in the world today.


46e249 No.673901

>>673868

A lot of that seems to be based on the community being closer, and the nutrition thing is a part, but overrated by SDA.

Honestly, i've always found it stupid.

If you wanna show how good OT dietary laws are, why not study super-kosher loving autistic orthodox jews, instead of some faggots in California that cherypick those things, influenced by some random woman that ripped off victorian nutritionists.


fbd327 No.673942

very anti-catholic meme religion on the level of mormonism and jehova's witnesses etc.


ba94f3 No.674009

>high levels of judaism

>is this heresy guys?

Think just a little bit.


8cf711 No.674011

>>674009

The sabbath is part of the 10 commandments, which are not just for Jews.


ba94f3 No.674014

>>674011

>What is the new testament

>what is the new day of the Lord?

Anon pls


01e734 No.674057

>>673854

Aren't those the Ellen White people? I'd eat a bacon cheeseburger with them any day of the week


8cf711 No.674059

>>674014

Can you prove from scripture that the day of the Lord = Sunday, and if so that it replaces the Sabbath or becomes the new Sabbath?


01e734 No.674066

>>674059

I don't need to. You have second century primary sources - Justin Martyr, eg, that attest to Sun.


8cf711 No.674069

>>674066

So, no.


01e734 No.674076

>>674069

Wait, so how many years after the apostles died did the church go apostate in your theology? Why even accept the bible if those who passed it down were doing it all wrong?


49256f No.674084

>>674069

>>674059

<Can you prove from scripture that the day of the Lord = Sunday

>>673854

>can we attain perfection by the leviticul priesthood and it's precepts such as celebrating the sabbath on saturday? i.e what seventh day adventists believe

The answer is no according to romans 3:10

>As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Hence hebrews 7:11-12

>If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

>For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Now the leviticul preisthood and it's precepts are a useful guide on how to better please God as mentioned in hebrews 8:5-13

>Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

>But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

>For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

>For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

>Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

>For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

>And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

>For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

>In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

But do not try to obtain righteousness by said leviticul priesthood's according to the law, hebrews 9:19, as warned against in romans 9:31-33

>But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

>Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

>As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Now that we have established that the leviticul priesthood being a shadow of things to come, let's look at the Melchisedec priest hood's seventh day as mentioned in hebrews 4:1-11

>LET us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

>For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

>For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

>For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

>And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

>Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

>Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

>For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

>There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

>For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

>Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

The Melchisedec priesthood's sabbath/seventh day hasn't happened yet for us Christians. So keep the sabbath holy, once it actually happens. Guessed where the rest for Christians happens? See revelation 14:13

>And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

When do their works follow them for this rest? See revelation 22:12

>And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

When Jesus comes back, also known as the day of the Lord.


289021 No.674100

>>674014

The word Sabbath comes from the Hebrew word "Shabbat," which is literally just the Hebrew word for Saturday.


49256f No.674104

>>674100

You mean it is (((aramiac/chaldean/babylonian))) for saturday as the saturn *the planet* worshippers named the day thus as to insult God with the (((modern gregorian))) calender. There's a biblical name for the seventh day of the week, it is the seventh day of the week or sabbath. There's ancient hebrews/non-babylonian names for the months too if you do your research straight from the Bible. One thing of note though, in the gregorian calander the seventh day of the week on the calander's is saterday. So for conventional/leviticul priest hood purposes the seventh day as counted on the gregorian calander is saturday.


54372f No.674180

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its not heretical enough


94adf5 No.674184

>>673854

Prottie church that has no tradition so starts judaising to appropriate some.


403fc0 No.674284

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>Humans do not possess an immortal soul


891fe9 No.675306




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