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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

fd9747 No.663413

I think i know how to remove the nazi high ground that pagans have against Christians.

Satanism is also Jewish influenced, and it's very clear that Paganism has satanic elements in it, just listening to the introduction of paganism on Varg's channel it's clear that spell casting, taking the identity of the dead and other mystical practices are blatantly satanic. So if you have any information specifically on how Judaism connects to satanism that then connects to heathery paganism, i would really appreciate it. I need a convincing enough argument point to show that just because pagans have no physical Jews in their belief it doesn't mean they're not full of jewelry.

02da90 No.663418

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>>663413

>I need a convincing enough argument point to show that just because pagans have no physical Jews in their belief it doesn't mean they're not full of jewelry

They're ok with doing lots of bad stuff which obviously makes them satanic. If you don't want to agree with their strangely devout belief that Yuropean Paganism has no foreign influence, believe in below instead:

While the Ancient Greeks came out with a more developed and influential civilization in the end, when they were still in the early developmental stage, they relied heavily on trade with the more advanced (at the time) Phoenicians, who were Semites. The Phoenicians had established themselves as merchant travelers who navigated and voyaged across the entire Ancient World, trading and collaborating with other societies they'd visit, and as such also served as mediums for cultural exchange. So in addition to teaching the Greeks their language and other technology they themselves had developed, they could also teach the Greeks concepts and innovations they had learned from different cultures, like the Mesopotamians. For example, the idea of "debt" (interest) https://phoenicia.org/interest.html . More interestingly, religion and mythology. This is why many Ancient Greek false gods, demigods, cultic practises, temples/idols, and even purely barbaric rituals like human sacrifice, have their roots in Near East religions like that of the Mesopotamians, read more here https://phoenicia.org/greek.html . On the other hand, while they communicated and traded with other societies including that of the Phoenicians, the Ancient and Biblical Jews were weary not to allow syncretism to change or influence their religious traditions, whether they came from Semitic societies or not. So in a sense, you could say the Babylonian odinist Crypto jews really do have the more semitic religion here.

The https://phoenicia.org/greek.html link has lots of citations. Counter-arguments to "but Viking religion has nothing to do with Greek!" is even Old Norse writing is based on Ancient Greek script (based on semitic Phoenician script) and "but Phoenicians were White!" is that they were neighbours to the Biblical Kingdom of Judah and Israel and moreso good friends, in a sense, with them, indicating either both were White or neither were White.

Sage because this has gotten boring tbh.


560a0f No.663420

File: aef9cde70de4889⋯.png (221.28 KB, 664x967, 664:967, kabbalat.PNG)

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I'm sure some anon can help you with the link between masonry and kabbalah, because it's very much real as both derive from the mystical "zohar" text as well as neo-platonism. It also infiltrated the vatican in the 16th century through people like Reuchlin and Pico de Mirandolla, and has been entrenched ever since.

You can find clear evidence of pagan rituals in Judaism through rituals and ceremonies like Kiddush Levanah (worship of Moon goddess/Shekinah) and kapparot. These are again derived from the Zohar, which itself derives again from the Babylonian Talmud. It's all clearly satanic and it doesn't take any time to see that as soon as you stop trusting "them" to tell you.


bf4a72 No.663423

>>663413

You ever hear jews talk about theology? They are pagans. They're more obsessed with angels and which pagan deity did God use to part the red sea and obsessive observation of ritual, than moral lessons. Paganism is judaism for whites. Christianity was created to do away with those time consuming rituals and replace all the imaginary gods with one God whose actions are the causal trends we see in the real world. Isaiah and Jesus spend time warning us that we should take away moral lessons from the traditions rather than obsessive adherence to the physical tradition itself, such as circumcision of the heart instead of physical circumcision. Church is still important because without some degree of mystical experience you end up with very superstitious people. Everyone I met who was into the occult was an atheist. Atheistic communist Russia had a huge problem with a massive percentage of the population practicing voodoo privately.


2b7def No.663439

>>663413

It's useless to argue with LARPagans, OP. In the end they are just going to say something along the lines of "Well, the Bible was still written by people with inferior Semitic genes so it can't be trusted" when they're out of arguments(ignoring the fact that the people of Mesopotamia, the inventors of civilization, were also Semitic.)


fd9747 No.663452

>>663439

Yeah, i know, i still feel it's good to learn a bit about their belief, and know the satanism for what it is.


3a35ac No.664030

>>663423

>They're more obsessed with angels and which pagan deity did God use to part the red sea and obsessive observation of ritual

That sounds like Gnosticism, or even some flavor of Zoroastrianism.


fc412a No.664058

>nazi

>high ground

go back to /pol/


4287b9 No.664082

>>663423

It makes sense.

Without Christ, their eyes are completely blinded, most of the OT is just a mystery without the light of the Gospels.

Without Christ, you also do not have Mary. Without the Holy Mother, you only have Satan.

What do I mean? Think of it this way, Satan is the perfect creation that rebelled and gave man the fruit of knowledge. But with the Holy Mother, Mary is the most perfect creation, the immaculate conception. Thus, the nature of Satan's temptation is revealed, and he is eternally condemned. Satan's pride resulted in his fall; Mary's humility exalted Her eternally.


4287b9 No.664084

>>664082

to take it further, it almost makes sense of Judaism to lapse into a pseudo-gnosticism, it's inevitable


4287b9 No.664086

>>664082

I also have just realized, if you deny Mary, you deny Jesus Christ…but, you also still place Satan as God's greatest creation if you deny the New Ark of the Covenant…

How unfortunate! God please open the eyes and hearts of many!


fd9747 No.664141

Look what i found. Probably just false flagging but interesting despite.

>>>/qresearch/1719707

>>664058

>>nazi

>>high ground

>go back to /pol/

Anon, the whole board is /pol/, we have a /christianpol/ cycling thread, pagan posters are everywhere.


fd9747 No.673214


fd9747 No.673215

File: 935bc9a9f8eee01⋯.png (1.45 MB, 1695x1184, 1695:1184, varg .png)

Also Varg isn't even a white supremest https://hooktube.com/watch?v=moN67R7Vew0


ccbbb5 No.673219

>>663413

Good luck. I'll be waiting for the result.


0013fe No.673406

>>663413

>Kristian Vikerness

>a good source on paganism

Literally all pagans will accuse you of strawmanning them because none of the serious ones consider this clown to be of any authority on the subject.


ccbbb5 No.673407

>>673406

This. Survive the Jive would be a lot better.

Varg is high on the memes and edgy kids being fans of his.

That said, he's not completely wrong on anything, but he's easily baited and tries to be "cool" more than anything.




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