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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a8b18e No.661850

I heard Theodora here worked to legalize abortion in the Roman Empire wtf is she a saint. or maybe i am wrong.

2861e3 No.661867

no


fceb86 No.661874

Why make a thread?


524bb9 No.661886

>>661850

I find no information about her pushing for abortion to be made legal in the empire at all.


995755 No.661889

Is this the fabled Baptist history I keep hearing about?


530781 No.661895

>>661850

Most of these charges were brought up by Procopius, who was, well…Procopius, shitposter extraordinaire.


aba03f No.661925

>>661874

Why make a post?


bef966 No.661931

>>661895

Is the Wars of Justinian trustworthy or is it bullshit like the Secret History?


788819 No.662196

>>661931

Oh, should have specified.

Secret history Procopius(or "Procopius", depending on what theory you believe)


105e4f No.662268

>>661895

Wasn't she a protector of heretics, though?

>>661931

He wrote two completely different things when Justinian was alive and after his death.

One of the two must be bullshit, no one can know certainly.


741dd4 No.662320

>>661850

>Some scholars believe that Theodora was Byzantium's first noted proponent—and, according to Procopius, practitioner—of abortion; she convinced Justinian to change the law that forbade noblemen from marrying lower class women (like herself). They also claim that Theodora advocated for the right of women to commit adultery and to be socially serviced, helping to advance protections and "delights" for them.

>Other scholars (and those who venerate Theodora as a saint) instead regard Theodora's achievements for women not as a modern feminist "liberation" to commit abortion or adultery but rather as a truly egalitarian drive to give women the same legal rights as men, such as establishing homes for prostitutes, passing laws prohibiting forced prostitution, granting women more rights in divorce cases, allowing women to own and inherit property, and enacting the death penalty for rape, all of which raised women's status far above that current in the Western portion of the Empire.


612517 No.662372

>>661850

Got sources?

or more likely (((sources)))

for this?


3f899c No.662412

>>662268

>no one can know certainly

In the Secret History, he describes Justinian as being a literal demon that genocided TRILLIONS

It's pretty obvious which of his works is bullshit.


b1b8ce No.662424

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>>661850

>I heard


3e5d63 No.662448

>>662412

It is certainly greatly exaggerated in numbers.

Doesn't mean there is no kernel of truth in it.

Kings and Emperors made into saints are always somehow controversial. See Constantine who killed his wife and son and was baptised only on deathbed by an heretic priest.


79953e No.665974

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She dindu nuffin




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