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>>661118

When people abandon the truth, they'll believe anything.

We shouldn't be surprised when this happens, especially since they open themselves up to demonic influence.

The best we can do is live the Gospel, preach the faith, and pray for them.

>>661118

Don't know about the others, but sounds to me like your Wicca friend with the altar has become so bluepilled that Christianity now scares her. She wants to believe in a peaceful (well, neofeminist version of peaceful) world view where nobody can punish (to her, "hurt") or impose any rules (to her "control") on others unless they do something of the sort of whatever liberals consider bad (they still consider non-infantile murder as something bad right?). Maybe keep that in mind if you decide to debate with and preach to her again?

>>661186

>(they still consider non-infantile murder as something bad right?)

<B-but the world is over populated! We can't sustain our population! M-muh nihilism! Life is pointless anyways!

>>661210

This. Full on fedora atheism just isn't that popular. Much easier to believe in some sort of really vague spiritual belief in which you don't have to do anything but "be a good person", and then when you die you get to see all your friends and family in pseudo-heaven. Only really bad people like murderers and rapists, as well as whatever special categories of people you don't take a liking to, go to pseudo-hell. Pseudo-god in this view is nice and vague and non-threatening, sort of like a good buddy who doesn't judge you too much and laughs at your jokes.

>>661118

I haven't observed this. Maybe it depends on country. In Finland it seems like educated liberal millennials in particular are generally speaking atheist pseudo-nihilists saying they don't really believe in anything except vaguely being good, yet their ethics are clearly derived from severely warped evangelic-lutheran christianity that is then mashed with communism, utopianism and nietzschean superhumanity. In some cases classical liberalism instead of communism, but usually communism without professing victim even understanding it. That blend is their replacement religion. It gives them utopian belief that they can fix everything wrong in the world, that they can save everyone via their superhuman intellect, will and strength alone. Their spirituality if you can say they have one can be reduced to unwavering commitment to egalitarism while simultaneously fancying idea of their own superhumanity that you can always read between the lines.

>>661118

It sounds like you might be Catholic, but still, I would recommend these three books for a little bit of insight into this phenomenon: "Nihilism" and "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future" by Fr Seraphim Rose and "Orthodoxy and the Kingdom of Satan" by Fr Spyridon Bailey, in that order.

"Nihilism" explains nihilism as not *only* a belief that truth doesn't exist, but as a faith of it's own that is in competition with Christianity.

"Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future" goes into things like Zen Buddhism, transcendental meditation, UFO culture, and why people are being drawn to it.

"Orthodoxy and the Kingdom of Satan" is more contemporary than the previous two (they're written around the 60's, this is from last year) and updates the progress of movements and beliefs that were written about in Fr Seraphim's "Religion of the Future".

>>661220

this.

>>661118

Ulimately it all comes down to them not wanting to submit to God. Most of these people go down to become e-gurus, witches and Gods/Godesses because they all want to stroke their ego.

Id blame them and the little to no emphasis on tradition by church officials.

I still respect hinduism because of its metaphysics.

Threads like these only serve as an echo chamber for the projection of personal biases. Yes we know Christianity is different from other religions but that doesn't mean one must expressly make an effort to belittle other ancient beliefs. There's reason why the world is varied in its views and if anyone is an adherent of any belief it's probably largely due to having existed in a time and place where such a belief is present. If someone chooses one belief over the other it may understandably be because of the perceived shortcomings of the other. For one reason or another certain beliefs and practices may be of more perceivable benefit in a more tangible manner, and they would be quite logical and rational to follow and doing so isn't necessarily an often alleged deficiency of conviction but may rather be a purposely sought cultivation of one's own capacities which some religions seek to work with rather than ignore.

Some religions also have a lot of sectarian infighting between them often over seemingly trivial issues and may also be highly politicized instead of being focused on maintaining a communal and spiritual tradition, leaving people craving it and seeking elsewhere.

>>661278

The funny thing is some Muslims and Jews probably complain about the same thing, I wonder which would be preferred by some, that people be Islamic or Jewish over a non-Abrahamic faith?

>>661282

>Islamic

>Jewish

There is no religion other than Christianity, not one. They may call themselves whatever they want though

>>661291

The undisputed writing of Acts clearly alludes to the existence of multiple religions together with elsewhere in scripture.

26:5

having knowledge of me from the first, if they be willing to testify, that after the straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.

>>661291

Of course there is, they just don't work very well.

>>661118

"When people no longer believe in God they believe in everything"

Secular humanism, marxism, mindless hedonism, SJWism, political religions, transhumanism Yoga, witchcraft, edulcorated western buddhism, new age feel good doctrines, self help human potential BS.

ALL THESE THINGS are just a surrogate for lack of spiritual meaning.

The only honest man was Nietzsche who, after rejecting God, also decided to reject all political illusions, secular moral systems and other lies people use to delude themselves. Naturally he went mad, but at least was honest, unlike these people.

God, delusions or insanity. Which way modern man?

>>661273

>be little other beliefs

New ageism is not a belief worth of respect.

>>661273

>belittle other ancient beliefs

Belief has no value by itself. Only Truth does.

It is quite obvious from physical and philosophical that atheism and polytheism is wrong. And it is only a belittle to point out its inconsistences if the viewer is prideful not of holding the Truth but of holding his opinion whatever it may be.

Not only are atheists prideful but so are you.

>>661118

Did you throw it in the trash in your house?! You shouldn't have those things in your house OP. Not even in the trash. Out out out!

>>661118

An interesting thing I've seen is that where many men who lose faith turn to atheism many women instead turn to new age garbage. I don't know why that is but it frequently seems to be the case.

>>661682

i think this video is relevant to the preying on women

>>661682

It took Satan himself to deceive woman, but all it took was a woman to deceive man.