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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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93bd22 No.659430

Why exactly when we start to believe in Christ, but fall away -and even try to walk away voluntarily from Him - we can't? Is there a concept for this? It's happened to me several times before and it happened just today.

a084fe No.659439

It's the action of Grace, through the Holy Spirit, acting on your soul.

It's also the thanks to the fact that your heart is still open enough to hear that call and to return to Him.

It happens to us all, and it happened to me recently too. At times I find myself too mired in sin to think I will ever be able to come back to Him but sure enough I always do.


5436b4 No.659440

"Irresistible grace" in Calvinism maybe. "Once Saved Always Saved" in Baptism maybe.


07b88d No.659441

I've also had this happen to me tonnes of times.

It's sort of like, a sorrow and an anger that arises when you happen to fall away on account of sin and doubt.

For me, these events acted like disciplinary measures, reminding me that i shouldn't be prideful in anything even my faith since i backpedal and sin, making me no better if not worse than people who actively take part in these sins.

It also might come down to the way you can't consciously decide what your soul or heart wants to feel, so it continues looking for god even though you say you have enough of it and want to relapse.

All in all you're fighting the good fight since this is clearly a spiritual battle you're engaged in, but you're gonna start seeing some real hardships and trials if you keep clinging to your faith in God, which is why his rewards are so sweet.


93bd22 No.659442

>>659439

This is even described in Scripture, it's actually pretty amazing.

>>659440

At least Calvin got that right

>>659441

It's happened to me a lot of times but I've kept coming back all the time. It's a very cozy feeling when you come back, probably the Holy Spirit.


831276 No.659705

>>659440

>"Irresistible grace" in ~Calvinism~ Reformed theology.

Yes =]

>"Once Saved Always Saved" in Baptism maybe

To ultimately return from temporary backsliding is more accurately described by "Perseverance of the Saints" (Calvinism again).

https://jpsmind.wordpress.com/2006/04/15/perseverance-of-the-saints-vs-osas-the-truth/


e54d3e No.659734

First of all, we can. There were number of such cases. Simon Magus being one of more famous one…

Second of all, even after mortal sin committed, Faith remains in soul, as Thomas Aquinas explained in Summa.

Third of all, heretics don't actually have faith but opinion so falling in more sin doesn't make a difference


d3c035 No.660086

>>659430

>Why exactly when we start to believe in Christ, but fall away -and even try to walk away voluntarily from Him - we can't?

It's called the "no one will snatch them out of my hand" assurance of salvation. You are His. You cannot run, even if you wanted to.

Refer Book of Jonah.


e54d3e No.660100

>>660086

>Refer Book of Jonah.

Which says that your salvation is dependent on your cooperation with God?




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