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Christ has established a Church, and he is one with it. So, yeah, you need to be part of his church in order to be "complete".

That leaves you with two options, Orthodoxy or Catholicism.

>>657778

fpbp

>I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these instructions to you so that, if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

t. Timothy 3:14-15

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>>657786

>There are only two options

Give me a quick rundown on this? Why is Protestantism disregarded?

>>657768

Here's where I'm at.

>Protestantism: chaos

>Apostolic: good traditions taken over by pharasaical rules-lawyering

>IFB: devout and pious, but have pet passages like other denoms and ignore others

Same boat as OP, but with more despair.

just visit as many churches as you can to see where God is calling you. your only options are baptist, ortho, or catholic really

>>657793

Protestantism is a very large umbrella term for a collection of denominations that hold contradictory views on theological issues.

You'll commonly hear the "30,000 denomination" figure thrown around, but that's not really used in the way we think of denominations.

At most, there might be around 10 or 15 main Protestant branches (Lutheran, Reformed, Methodist, Anglican, etc.).

However, if we're going to count each Protestant church that considers itself "independent," then we could fudge a number like 30,000.

Every denomination either broke off from Roman Catholicism, as was the case with Lutheranism and Anglicanism, or broke off from another Protestant denomination, as was the case with Methodism from Anglicanism.

At worst, Protestantism makes every man a pope, free to interpret the Scriptures and faith at his leisure.

At best, Protestantism is a diluted, but well intentioned, break from Roman Catholicism that shoots for true faith but misses the mark.

>>657793

As previously mentioned, they (Prots) weren't founded by Christ himself. They exclude a lot of book from the canon and they don't have even apostolic succession. With them having no theological authority, they can very easily get into error even within a single denomination, thus leading to more schism and heresy. (against which Christ prayed [John 17:20-23])

>>657806

>good traditions taken over by pharasaical rules-lawyering

Nah, that's just Roman Catholicism.

>>657847

Don't start, you guys already have a bickering thgread for that.

>>657768

Read the bible, research different denominations, read some apologists, pray, go to the one you're led to.

>>657793

Saying that protestantism is the correct denomination implies that either you don't know history(which would make you innocent, but, really) or that for 1500 years the word of God was submerged under the power of the Catholic Church and only with Martin Luther we realized something was wrong. Or if you're not Lutheran, that, even worse, Martin Luther realized it was wrong but the real church only was (semi?) realized by your church leader.

>>657801

>Vladimir Putin in the bottom

What did you just say

>>657857

>Predenominational Christian

Is that a new name for the "I just follow Christ" folks.

>>657857

So every man his own denomination? lol

>>657810

>With them having no theological authority, they can very easily get into error even within a single denomination, thus leading to more schism and heresy.

This is the same problem with Catholics. All 33,000 denominations are schismed among each other because they come from sacerdotalism, but they can't decide what man is to interpret. But none of them has any theological authority because there wasn't any there to begin with. Not Lutheran priests, not Cath priests, not anyone else. And that's also why they do infant baptism, sprinkling and other inversions of baptism, so you know they're not the true church.

The church of God has always done baptism correctly, by immersion on profession of faith of the believer. And it is always held to the existence of the Holy Spirit to guide the believer into all truth, therefore not making up a bunch of Cath/prot denominations in the process. Like Roman orthodox, Eastern orthodox, etc.

My church has no schisms and follows the word of God, safeguarding it against corruption, which is the final authority for faith and practice, and not manmade traditions. The choice then should be obvious.

>>657917

>My church has no schisms and follows the word of God

And which might that be?

>>658181

>infant baptism

Anon, pls.

>>658181

Lol, it's actually Orthodox who have schismated in 1054 (and in 1272 and 1439).Catholic Church is the true Church, founded by Christ himself.

:^)

>>657857

Off-topic, so polite self-sage. That is a really nice tree. Considering that there's so many children in Heaven, this makes me want to build tree houses for them when I get there.

>>658206

The creed wasn't altered

>>658213

Sorry about that. Realized my mistake after posting. Early morning.

>>657857

>He is neither Catholic nor Protestant

I'm glad to see that he is Orthodox.

>>657793

martin luther is like the poettering of the christian world

>>658495

Prevail doesn't mean uninterrupted success - kind of like how we dont say the Kaiser prevailed against the Entente because he defeated Russia or that the gates of hell did not prevail over the Catholics during the period of Anti Popes.

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>>658483

Why don't any of these show the Old Believer schism in Orthodox Church, and the reforms of Nikon as a change in doctrine.

>>658536

>>658569

Because in these cases you mention it was not a split over theology and dogma. Its for the same reason why the Catholic chart does not show a seperate branch for the roughly 30 antipopes the Catholic Church has had or the 7 Popes of the Avignon Papacy nor does it have Vatican II

i couldnt choose between catholicism and orthodoxy, so I just took both calendars, both theological schools of thought, and both daily practices, taking larping out of the equation by simply attending the local catholic church

>>658600

>Old believer schism wasn't over dogma

Who was Avaakum?

>>658625

A key figure in the Old Believer movement which as said before did not schism over theology and dogma.