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>>657300

But Moses sought the favor of the Lord his God, and said, “Lord, why does Your wrath burn against Your people, whom You have brought forth from the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? Why should the Egyptians speak, saying, ‘With evil intent He brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to destroy them from the face of the earth’? Turn from Your fierce wrath and relent of this harm against Your people. Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants, to whom You swore by Yourself, and said to them, ‘I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give to your descendants, and they will inherit it forever.’ ” Then the Lord relented of the harm which He said He would do to His people.

–The Second Book of Moses Called Exodus

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>>657305

So the will of God can change….?

>>657320

>Son asks you for something

>You grant it

>Son gets surprised

???

>>657320

It does not change; the will of God is always for the sinner to come to repentance. God does not exist in time; to say that he foresees something and crafts his will accordingly would be erroneous. Rather he simply sees everything, and as such his will regarding everything is eternally fixed, and whatever Jesus chooses to grant, in time, changeable as shown in the Wedding at Cana, is always in accordance with the will of the Father, because the will of the Father is always that of the Son.

>>657324

Is this Calvinist predestination?

>>657320

Fellow Christanon, you need to read your Bible cover-to-cover with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Faith without works is dead, now get to work and start reading.

>>657326

No, because that would imply lack of free will. Beings made in the image of God are not automatons, God is just really really really smart.

>>657326

predestination preceded Calvinism, Calvinism just made it retarded

We pray that we may receive the gifts God judges us worthy of if we pray.

>>657433

>>657331

Alright. Thanks guys.

>When you pray, go away by yourself, all alone, and shut the door behind you and pray to your Father secretly, and your Father, who knows your secrets, will reward you. -Matt 6:6

>Don’t recite the same prayer over and over as the heathen do, who think prayers are answered only by repeating them again and again. Remember, your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! -Matt 6:7-8

God already knows what you are going to pray for before you pray for it. He knows what you are feeling before you feel it. He knows what you are thinking before you think it. He knows what you are going to say before you say it. He knows what you will do before you do it.

All of your experience has been designed by the Lord and presented to you. What will you do about this?

Prayer is more than begging God for favors. When you pray you align your priorities with God's priorities.

>Now glory be to God, who by his mighty power at work within us is able to do far more than we would ever dare to ask or even dream of—infinitely beyond our highest prayers, desires, thoughts, or hopes. May he be given glory forever and ever through endless ages because of his master plan of salvation for the Church through Jesus Christ. -Ephesians 3:20

Prayer is transformation of yourself. It is an affirmation of what is within your control and what is beyond your control. It is a calming thankfulness for the opportunities placed before you. It builds faith that everything is going to be okay, which lays a functional inner stability that prosperity can be built upon.

>Ask, and you will be given what you ask for. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened. -Matt 7:7

Prayers are requests to God. God answers all personal requests in a manner that helps clarify his design to the person who requests it. It's usually not the answer you are anticipating because you are a puny human compared to God.

>Yes, ask anything, using my name, and I will do it! - John 14:14

>You didn’t choose me! I chose you! I appointed you to go and produce lovely fruit always, so that no matter what you ask for from the Father, using my name, he will give it to you. - John 15:16

God asks you to pray to him.

>>657591

>God already knows what you are going to pray for before you pray for it.

yes, by transcending time

>All of your experience has been designed by the Lord and presented to you.

not necessarily, how things are, emergent vs designed, do not depend on god's timeless knowledge.

>>657610

BTW the rest of

>>657591

is very good