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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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cb352f No.654368

Other primeapes, elephants, dolphins, dogs and even certain farm animals do not seem too far removed from us in certain aspects, especily elephants. But do they have souls?

59e880 No.654369


8fc953 No.654372


257a8e No.654380

>>654368

Negative


06ea95 No.654381

Doesn't matter. Even if they have souls, humans have dominion over them.

Genesis 1

28 God blessed them and God said to them: Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that crawl on the earth. 29 God also said: See, I give you every seed-bearing plant on all the earth and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit on it to be your food;

30 and to all the wild animals, all the birds of the air, and all the living creatures that crawl on the earth, I give all the green plants for food. And so it happened.

31 God looked at everything he had made, and found it very good. Evening came, and morning followed—the sixth day.

Genesis 9

1 God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them: Be fertile and multiply and fill the earth.

2 Fear and dread of you shall come upon all the animals of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon all the creatures that move about on the ground and all the fishes of the sea; into your power they are delivered.

3 Any living creature that moves about shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants.

But, there are animals in heaven

Isaiah 65

17 See, I am creating new heavens and a new earth; The former things shall not be remembered nor come to mind.

25 The wolf and the lamb shall pasture together, and the lion shall eat hay like the ox—but the serpent’s food shall be dust. None shall harm or destroy on all my holy mountain, says the Lord.

Rev 19

14 The armies of heaven followed him, mounted on white horses and wearing clean white linen.


e469aa No.654388

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>>654368

Nope, to say that they do is paganism.


84ad62 No.654390

I don't see why they couldn't.

>ywn live to see a whalesong translation of the Bible


69f542 No.654411

No creature is there crawling on the earth, no bird flying with its wings, but they are nations like unto yourselves. We have neglected nothing in the Book; then to their Lord they shall be mustered. Qur'an 6:38

Why do you Christians hate animals so much?


cedad0 No.654412

>>654411

>goat lover loves goats

No surprises


69f542 No.654415

>>654412

Do goats have wings? I forget.


388934 No.654446

No. The part that is translated as "soul" in English should better be translated as "life force"

>>654381

Isaiah and revelations are symbolic and should not be taken literally.


7e0638 No.654490

>11 For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly

>Psalm 84

24 Then God said: Let the earth bring forth every kind of living creature: tame animals, crawling things, and every kind of wild animal. And so it happened: 25 God made every kind of wild animal, every kind of tame animal, and every kind of thing that crawls on the ground. God saw that it was good.

>Genesis 1

God in his omnipotence can create an animal with a soul in heaven. I believe anyone who goes to heaven will be able to meet their pets in heaven if God willed it. But a random deer in the woods that never knew a human will die and that's it unless God willed otherwise.


fc4e22 No.654584

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21b0ed No.654588

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a4470f No.654596

They have souls. Not eternal, rational soul, but soul nonetheless. They are even named animals because they have sensual souls (anima)


2a69e4 No.654601

>>654368

Debatable, and also not relevant, we have dominion & a duty not to abuse it. I'd just say that if there is a plan for them God has been tight lipped about it.


6ab57d No.654631

>>654411

ask your """prophet""" the same question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOG7-052Vyo


84ad62 No.654633

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e69c77 No.654735

>>654368

I recall that on the Catholic catechism (I'm not Catholic though) that animals do have souls, but they are material souls unlike man.

That being said, God loves all of his creations from the beginning and garden of Eden, so I can see animals being reincarnated to heaven. Although, they cannot reach salvation obviously, like man.


5b1027 No.654832

>>654631

Mr. Scruffles Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!


85954f No.657220

Today a jewish hipster dude from my school told me that soul doesn't exist. He kept repeating "give me proof" I couldn't really articulate myself at that time. He was constantly also mentioning Sartre. What would be your answer guys?


ca7e7b No.657266

>>654368

The immortality of the soul in man is due to the breath of God of Genesis 2:7 and that was given only to humans.

So, if you mean Soul as in an immortal soul, no the animals do not have a soul.

If, however, you mean soul as the center of cognitive abilities of a living being then animals have a limited soul: they lack the spiritual and rational parts of the soul but they do possess the cognitive and appetitive parts of the soul (memory, desires, senses, etc…)


422ba3 No.657273

>>654588

>everything you love about a dog is due to their exposure to humans

Just false. Why do you think it was wolves that became man's hunting partners and not cats? Because wolves have the inherent intelligence, pack mindset and loyalty that make them good hunting partners.


422ba3 No.657275

>>657220

Ask him how consciousness came about. Then watch him desperately try to explain how matter can somehow become aware of it's own existence.


75cde7 No.657277

>>654368

Nothing in this world has soul


784b29 No.657278

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635f70 No.668434

>>654368

They have souls but not immortal souls, so they can't be saved.


d62565 No.668435

>>668434

Why do people bump nearly dead threads?


635f70 No.668439

>>668435

It had to correct them


50d5d5 No.668446

You need to know the difference between Logic and Reason.

After that, research what the Church Fathers saw as "image of God in man". Which is being able to use Logic and not only Reason, Free Will and God-granted immortality.




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