>>653663
Couple things here. First things first, to somewhat answer the scripture you mentioned, you should keep in mind what it says a couple verses before where it explained that Haman did these things because he had scorn toward Mordecai. That personal antipathy being the reason, he might not be a completely reliable witness. Just keep that in mind as I continue.
Haman certainly had a point that the Jews, which came from the original kingdom of Judah, at the time did not always observe the laws of the land. We see a similar scenario play out in Daniel chapter 6, where the presidents and princes cause the king of Persia to pass a law designed so that Daniel can't obey it. Notice what it says right before they hatch the plot:
>Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.
>Then said these men, We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel, except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.
So then we see that at this time, Daniel for one was not found to be breaking any current laws. But the point is they were still able to craft a law to intentionally conflict with his God's higher law, and thus still cause him to be thrown into the lion's den. Therefore we can see that Haman speaks some level of truth, but, at least according to the narration of the Old Testament, it isn't seemingly the problem that he makes it out to be.
We can also see that the doctrine of submitting the government is consistent in the NT, spelled out in Romans 13, also with the story of Jesus telling the Herodians and Pharisees to render to caesar the things that are caesar's and to God the things that are God's. The opposite is condemned, see for instance 2 Peter 2.
>But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
So then if we assume the Bible is consistent in showing the correct doctrine, then it is clear that this has always been the standard God wanted people to follow. Now the standard is one thing, but whether the anyone actually kept it is the question. The answer is that the vast majority of Jews never kept this standard. In fact large sections of the Old Testament involve God rebuking and indicating his wrath at what the Jew's are doing at all various times and how he will bring enemies to swing down the sword on them for these things. And the ultimate rebuke is that they are finally replaced as the people of God after they full well reject and crucify God's Son, Jesus Christ. The people of God switches to the elect from then on, meanwhile certain sects of Pharisees set up opposition to all these ideas, making themselves the polar opposite to the truth. In Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 they are identified with a name, the synagogue of Satan, them which say they are Jews and are not, for even that is a lie. And even if they were, it wouldn't help them. So they are this kind of very strange bizarro-cult that manages to be wrong on every level simultaneously, and it confuses people to no end, to this very day. I would thus advise you not to even spent time listening to anything they have to say, once you've identified one. They will be wrong on so many levels, you will likely end up misled about something without even realizing it, unless you simply don't let it affect you at all. So I would advise against listening to them, once you've identified what they are. And you know very well how to find them, I'm sure. That's how you got here.