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>>650024

Nimrod was the God-King of (some Sumerian nation) and he was having a crisis. He had no heir or wife. So before he died, he knocked up his mother (Semiramis) and on the 25th of December (or some shit like that) she gave birth to Tammuz and became his regent until Tammuz grew up.

>>650024

As far as I know, this trinity is the basis for the claims of muslims and fedoras on the origin of the pagan influence in the Christian trinity (aka why Catholicism is literally roman 🅱aganism disguised as worshiping the One God Almighty)

>>650024

A insane british preacher made a book in the 1800's, about how all catholic holidays are pagan, tied it with that "mystery babylon" verse, and then went to town, making up all kinds of crap that he tied in with Nimrod and Tammuz, since they were obscure biblical figures, and you could more easily hide if you were talking out of your ass than if you made similar claims than about, say, Diana.

Rather than read propaganda about his claims like this

>>650033

download the PDF here

>>650031

and judge for yourself. Truth fears no investigation.

>>650024

Sorry but it started with Krishna, sweetie.

>>650024

I don't know if you could really say being triune is a key feature of these figures. However, Semiramis with infant Tammuz was definitely an influence on many cults. You can see the similarities in various depictions. The Bible even mentions this as some Israelites had fallen to it, and it is of old origin. See Acts 7:41-43, it mentions several false gods and at the end that God will carry them away "beyond Babylon." Another reference to the originator of this. Revelation also speaks of the great whore of Babylon in the end times, implying that it has been around all this time and that it never went away.

Jeremiah 7:18

>The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

Jeremiah 44:17

>But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

So we see another name for the false god at the time was the "queen of heaven" and that their offerings provoked God to anger.

OP isn't talking about Catholicism, don't be confused by this. He's referring to the idea that all non-Christian religions came out of Babylon from Nimrod, the Lord of Sumeria. This idea constitutes that all pagan religions, especially the mythology of the ancient Near Eastern nations (Babylon, Canaan, Egypt) came from the mouth of these Nimrodian myths.

Bullshit, more or less https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiramis

>>650093

>Obvious and blatant bullshit to anyone with even elementary (((knowledge))) of ancient Middle Eastern history and mythology.

>(((knowledge)))

Oh boy. Here come the queer studies majors.

>>650085

What's the errors with that book?

>>650131

*crickets chirping

>>650131

Countless, so I won't post responses to every single claim - but I will try to show at length the problems with at least some big ones tomorrow (it's 2AM here already). In the meantime, Google is your friend - there is a lot of debunking of this book on the Internet, go check it if you want.

As far as I know, concepts of a 'Trinity' have been seen throughout the beginning of religions and spiritual traditions. Hinduism, for example, had a Trinity, iirc.

>>650156

>>650157

Pagan Celts too,

Lugus is often depicted with three faces, and in Irish mythology the war goddess Morrigan is depicted as being "divided" into/"composed" of three other goddesses Badh, Nemain and Macha. Same with a trinitarian earth goddess of Eriu-Banba-Fodla.

>>650158

From a anthropological or sociological point of view, this is really interesting. Why does the Trinity show up in different religions or spiritual traditions that didn't have contact with each other?

Possibly the idea of 'Father, Mother and Son'?

>>650086

This. The entire claim s bogus. This is "Horus was the first Jesus"-tier garbage.

>>650162

I'm not sure about the anthropological/sociological implications of this, but for a start Hinduism and Celtic paganism are both Indo-European so the fact that there is a link there isn't surprising so much as it is interesting that there is obviously some kind of underlying "revelation" to this. We aren't talking about three separate gods in these cases, we are talking about direct parallels with the Christian Trinity being "one god/dess in three divine persons", which is amazing.

IE society in particular was apparently also very stratified by threes, too. Society was organised into three primary social castes or priests-knights-workers, for example, which is pretty much universally attested to in their own ancient records.

>>650106

>Look ma, if i imply "da jooz", it means i can twist Mesopotamian mythology however i want;

No, this is JW tier bullshit, pure and simple.

>>650158

>being "divided" into/"composed" of three other goddesses

eh I'm skeptical about this, that's not how trinity works

>>650254

>da jooz

those who can't name the jew are either jews themselves or dominated by them.

>>650031

>>650035

It's a turgid mass of unwarranted faith in the greek's understanding of their paganism and their frankly awful folk etymologies which has had the lie put to it by our access to the primary mesopotamian sources which show that many of the critical correspondences he was working with don't have historical support.

>>650301

Kek.

Just because people call you out on making stupid claims regarding mythology isn't a jewish conspiracy.

It just means you're an idiot that can't offer any proof regarding his claims.

>>650317

>>650301

was my first, and up until now, only, post in this thread.

I got called out on jack shit nothing.

My point, remains, however.

>>650320

>My point, remains, however.

So does mine.

Just saying "jews!" as a kneejerk reaction to anything doesn't mean shit, just like /x/tards saying "disinfo!" and "gov shill!" whenever someone says their theories on alien visitations and crystal healing or whatever are bullshit doesn't make them less wrong.

>>650131

Just one of them when browsing the book; the sign of the cross is the sign of Tammuz.

Another one is that Easter is pagan and comes from Astarte.

I bet you 1 ether that it also says that the mitres are based upon Dagon fish hats.

>>650157

>>650158

That's not how the trinity works.

Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma are reincarnations, and having more three faces doesn't mean it was a trinity either.

>>650301

Nimrod pre-dated the jews, sweetie. In fact, he pre-dated Abraham.

>>650322

>just like /x/tards saying "disinfo!" and "gov shill!"

Why the winnie the pooh would anyone give a shit about /x/?

>>650131

>in the mythology of Egypt, for there we read that Osiris, under the form of Anubis, having been brought forth by Nepthys, was adopted and brought up by the goddess Isis as her own son.

There is no such egyptian myth.

>>650424

>Tawaret

E X T R A T H I C C

>>650338

>>650259

I know it's not how THE Trinity works. That's the point of this thread. The point is that these are pagan corruptions/misinterpretations of the truth.

And yes, the celtic gods I mentioned are probably the closest examples of non-Christian trinitarianism that I can think of in that they were viewed as being one deity in three divine persons.

>>650515

Satan always counterfeits the truth with a superficially similar lie. The Queen of Heaven replaces Mary, earthly spiritual 'fathers' replace the role of the heavenly Father, the pagan trinity replaces the Christian trinity etc. We must always be wary of the devil's wiles.

>>650156

Many say that the false trinities started in Babylon.