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>>647645

>In the current workplace, were we to actually say what we think of sodomites, feminits and other demons, we'd lose our jobs and have our names run through the mud.

1) You can say what you believe tactfully

2) You don't have to say these things if not asked.

Really, Christians should come out and be separate. The right way to do this is to form only non-profit, religious companies that make professing the faith a requirement to be a member.

Basically, these companies could function as Christian communes and, since they're non-profit, could exclude others based on bonafide religious grounds.

Greed on the rich and lack of funding on the poor is what prevents Christians from doing this. We need to break free from the heathens and infidels economically if really want to really be free at all.

>>647645

>Isn't denying Christ before men? By denying his very teachings?

john 14:15

>If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Yes.

>Is it possible to be hooked up to the current economical system and be saved?

revelation 18:11-13

>And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

>The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

>And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

Yes. But try to do proverbs 5:15

>Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.

Try not to be under oppresion, nor opress others like described in lamentations 5:4-9

>We have drunken our water for money; our wood is sold unto us.

>Our necks are under persecution: we labour, and have no rest.

>We have given the hand to the Egyptians, and to the Assyrians, to be satisfied with bread.

>Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities.

>Servants have ruled over us: there is none that doth deliver us out of their hand.

>We gat our bread with the peril of our lives because of the sword of the wilderness.

2 corinthians 6:17

>Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

>>647657

I'm not talking about luxury, like revelation 18:11-13 says.

I think there's a communication issue by my part.

Let's say a KGB officer points a gun at your head and tells you to deny Christ or your children will be orphans.

What should a Christian do?

Because the scenario above is exactly what we find today in the workplace. Except we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, as Scripture tells us.

>>647645

Just be tactful and stay away from evil, Christians in every era have endured persecution, even from those carrying the banner of Christ.

>>647654

>Be separate

No, one doesn't hide a light under a bushel, we should be separate in our thoughts and deeds, and that should be enough to save us from most of the world's iniquity.

>>647663

You're not enduring persecution if you're telling half-truths-full-lies.

>separate in our thoughts and deeds

Isn't how we earn our daily bread one very important deed?

>>647661

It's not a gun to the head in the workplace, it's just not casting your pearls before the swine. You're not denying Christ, and lies to throw off the enemy are permitted.

>>647699

>lies to throw off the enemy are permitted

Where does it say this?

>>647711

In the Quran.

>>647664

24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life[a]?

28 “And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

>>647664

I suppose, I was thinking more that you can be forgiven like the publican in Jesus's parable of the publican and the pharisee at the temple.

If you have a family to protect, you might not be able to do more than the publican could. The fact is the publican who said "Lord have mercy on me, a sinner" knew full well that he was coerced by money to feed himself and his family.

>>647699

Umm, no, your enemy is falsehood itself

>>647733

Yep

>>647775

Are you a Markov bot?

>>647765

I don't have a family as of yet.

But I have been planning things out for a while and raising a family to be God's sheep entails an insane amount of entanglement in the monetary system and it is quite worrysome.

>>647661

>not being allowed to openly use gay slurs and condemn them to hell at work is equivalent to the Christian martyrs who died for not denying Christ

Don't you have any shame for comparing the two?