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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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fee539 No.645141

So I've been lurking through some orthodox news and all of that. And I've read a report about a visit by some MP's from Russian State Duma to the Serbian Patriarch. In the report, there are some photos. A Russian MP who is known to be ultra-orthodox is wearing a black suit and black pants. Isn't that odd?

Would it be ok to wear that outfit in your denomination? What is your opinion on Christian fashion? Is it even possible to be a good Christian and to wear nice things? Am I wrong to say that the concept of fashion was not even known to the biblical figures so I will not find a whole lot on this issue in the Bible?

fee539 No.645153

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>>645141

For me, the question about fashion is a part of the broader question: where lies the border between culture and theology in the life of a Christian? So, is fashion a purely cultural thing like wearing beards? The Romans have always shaved them and the Greeks did not. So a beard in Greek/Orthodox world is a must and in the Catholic West a beard still has some barbaric connotations.


551673 No.645177

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Honestly, this depends on whether or not fashion is being used as a worldly interest (ie.buying new clothes every "season", following trends) or as a practical action (owning a small amount of clothes that are well cared for and only buying more clothes once a garment has become unwearable). Basically, don't use clothing as a worldly wealth signifier and you should be fine.


8382ec No.645180

>not wearing t-shirts with bible verses on them to passively proselytize while walking down streets


7b3645 No.645197

Idk but i wear aloha shirts, tracksuits and suits all the time.


0df44f No.645200

>>645141

Most fashions are ridden on "themes" and "keywords" such as "spring", "sensual", "youth", "spirited", etc.

"Wholesome", "graceful", and "humble". These are the keywords which popped in my head when you mention "Christian fashion". Your pictures are fine example. Like silk hiding steel, but instead of steel it is indomitable faith as solid as the rock which the church is built upon full of grace.


7462d1 No.645202

>>645141

Fashion is unfortunately vanity for the most part. Everyone has to ask himself if he dresses that way to look orderly or to look good. I think women should wear skirts below the knee, blouses below the elbows, and collars above the collar bones; women should not wear pants.

Poklonskaya is a cutie and a patriot, but she's not a model Christian woman: She is divorced and has only one kid.


013a4f No.645205

>>645141

There's no such thing as "Christian fashion", because that'd mean you'd indulge in some kind of vain wordlyness and who cares about that anway. Rule of thumb: Don't run around like a thot or a bum. In church and when visiting clergy on official occasions, pull out good clothes - after all, you're going to be in the same room as your Lord and Savior. A black suit is best, but generally make sure you look "professional" and grown up.


1c9e26 No.645206

>>645141

>>645153

Fashion is purely cultural thing. As long as it isn't indecent it should be okay.

>>645202

>has only one kid

Literally nothing wrong with this?


013a4f No.645207

>>645205

Oh and I'm Catholic


fee539 No.645211

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>>645202

>women should not wear pants.

Wtf is wrong with pants? I am sure those are female pants. We are not living in the 50's anymore where a woman could be escorted home by the police if she showed up to a restaurant wearing pants.


72cd00 No.645213

>>645211

>We are not living in the 50's anymore where a woman could be escorted home by the police if she showed up to a restaurant wearing pants.

Sounds like my kind of traditional country.


7462d1 No.645219

>>645206

>Literally nothing wrong with this?

Christians, unless they're monks, are supposed to have as many kids as possible.


fee539 No.645223

>>645219

>are supposed to have as many kids as possible.

Just no. That is unbiblical. Christians should not abuse contraception is true but 'to have as many children as possible' is hardly a Christian commandment. You see, bearing children is not the goal of a Christian marriage. Bearing children is rather the nature of a Christian marriage, you know. But nature != goal. Let's say, you have a garden. And you are growing flowers for a person you hold dear. You get the flowers but having them is not your goal. Your goal is to give them to the person. The flowers are the nature of gardening in this case but your goal is to make someone happy. You can call marriage or family a 'school of love' and children are the by-product.


9049d4 No.645228

>>645223

>unbiblical

>be fruitful and multiply


7462d1 No.645233

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>>645223

>You see, bearing children is not the goal of a Christian marriage. Bearing children is rather the nature of a Christian marriage, you know.

>and children are the by-product.

Begone SATAN!!!!!


fee539 No.645240

>>645228

>be fruitful and multiply

Yeah, do you see the difference between 'multiply' and 'be fruitful and overpopulate the planet'?


fee539 No.645241

>>645233

But it is not the goal. If it were so, a matrimony between a sterile man or woman would be against the canonical law. During the 2000 years of Christianity there were no such law forbidding to marry a sterile woman.


aa7e98 No.645251

>Woman wearing pants

>Man dressed like a pharisee

Not in these images.


9bf83f No.645273

>>645141

<Am I wrong to say that the concept of fashion was not even known to the biblical figures

There's plenty in the Bible about clothing.

>Is it even possible to be a good Christian and to wear nice things?

First there is none good, except one, that is, God matthew 19. Second yes it is acceptable to wear raiment there is nothing wrong with it. Just don't transgress james 2:1-9

>MY brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

>For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;

>And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

>Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

>Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

>But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

>Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

>If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

>But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

<What is your opinion on Christian fashion?

deutoronomy 22:5

>The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

revelation 19:7-8

>Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

>And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

exodus 28:31-35

>And thou shalt make the robe of the ephod all of blue.

>And there shall be an hole in the top of it, in the midst thereof: it shall have a binding of woven work round about the hole of it, as it were the hole of an habergeon, that it be not rent.

>And beneath upon the hem of it thou shalt make pomegranates of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, round about the hem thereof; and bells of gold between them round about:

>A golden bell and a pomegranate, a golden bell and a pomegranate, upon the hem of the robe round about.

>And it shall be upon Aaron to minister: and his sound shall be heard when he goeth in unto the holy place before the LORD,and when he cometh out, that he die not.

Get fine linen and don't cross dress. Blueish robes with purple and scarlet mixed in is what was commanded for Aaron for ministering to the LORD.


7462d1 No.645287

>>645241

Cease your satanic sophistry.


795ad3 No.645297

>>645141

We had christian fashion until the late XIX when feminists liberated women from traditions. Each, country, region had it's cultural expression.


795ad3 No.645298

>>645241

and who would want to marry a sterile woman? That was unthinkable in the past.


9bf83f No.645314

>>645298

>and who would want to marry a sterile woman? That was unthinkable in the past.

Isaac had married the barren rebekah in genesis 25:21. Enough said.


fee539 No.645326

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>>645287

I merely oppose the worldview where a woman is considered an incubator in the first place. I think that as Christian we should not reduce women to their reproductive function. A Christian marriage is so much more than that.


5a2527 No.645499

>>645211

>We are not living in the 50's anymore where a woman could be escorted home by the police if she showed up to a restaurant wearing pants

A man can dream.

>>645141

Fashion is expression and communication. Even if you think you're sticking to basics with something like a suite or polo you communicate fashion decisions in the cut, silhouette, etc. Just as you wouldn't wear stripes with plaid, caring about fashion is caring about the clarity of a message. What that message is is what the real question is about, and I take the same rules with other communication such as speech as I do fashion. Dignity, piety, substance.




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