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>>643547

>>643547

Search a parish near you, make the priest your (at least temporary) spiritual and pastoral guide and confess. Also pray the Rosary regularly for help.

Note: Curb the nazi crap, because even if you're genuine, it makes your thread look like a /pol/ bait. Hitler and Himmler - and all the others contributing - were as anti-Christian as one can get. No way around it, no justification. Drop that shiet immediately.

Back to your problem: You don't let Jesus down by falling. You will only let him down when you don't get up again. Fighting addictions is a Hercules-task, but you know you can do it with and through the Lord. For Christ is the vine and you are the branch. If you stay in Him, you will bear much fruit. But without Him, you can do nothing. (John 15:5)

Falling to sin (may it as severe as it is sometimes) is a part of being human. Even baptism does not change that. But the Sacraments provide the grace that we need to eventually overcome sin.

>14 The Lord upholds all who are falling, and raises up all who are bowed down.

>15 The eyes of all look to you, and you give them their food in due season.

>16 You open your hand, satisfying the desire of every living thing.

*Psalm 145:14-16

>4 You shall say to them, Thus says the Lord: When people fall, do they not get up again? If they go astray, do they not turn back?

*Jeremiah 8:4

The Lord is well aware (obviously >_>) of your struggle - but you shall get up again and again and again and repent anew.

>8 We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair;

>9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed;

>10 always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be made visible in our bodies.

*2 Corinthians 4:8-10

May God bless you on your ways

Nice video of Fulton Sheen talking about drunkards he knew. I don't know how much it will do for you, but he has some nice stories about this struggle.

>>643561

>pastor

>>643593

>Sigh le table talk maymay again

>because the allies definitely didn't have an agenda when they "discovered" that supposed journal

Dude, Himmler was an unapologetic pagan and had Hitler been a true Christian he would have removed him. Stop defending a guy who started a world war with 60 million dead Christian Europeans.

>>643547

>OP asks for help with addiction

>/christian/ turns it into a Hitler thread

sigh

OP, go to church and find a community. Most churches have recovery programs and other resources to help you through such dark times. I drank heavily (nearly a liter of vodka a day) for 16 years before finding help in the church. I survived and so can you.

>>643597

>implying Hitler started the war and not the godless commies

Stop defending literal state atheism and our modern degeneracy. Im not defending Himmler. In fact, take that sh*t to the /christian/pol thread. OP has an alcohol addiction. Attacking his political beliefs even if they are misguided wont help him. SAGE for continued off topic.

>>643597

>60 million dead Christian Europeans.

I thought it was 40 million dead people from World War 2. People shouldn't exaggerate tragedies for privileges. Also the holocaust was fake.

>>643597

https://pastebin.com/xuzUGTpP

A comment I saved from youtube comment section on a video on this particular subject, the guy disputes with sources that Himmler was Pagan/Occult (it was too long to post here), so take of it what you will.

>>643603

>I thought it was 40 million dead people from World War 2

You thought wrong.

>>643609

>https://pastebin.com/xuzUGTpP

>In Talmudic Yewbrew notzri (pronounced “nazi”), literally “Followers of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,” means “a Christian;”

Ahahahahahahaha. I love how creative people get trying to whitewash Naziism. Look, even this cherry-picked comment of yours doesn't deny that Himmler was a pagan. Time to grow up, and see both the good and bad in people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_SS#Neo-pagan_doctrine

>>643547

Have you looked into AA? It seems to help a lot of people.

>>643601

>>643597

>>643590

>>643609

>>643629

This is enough, guys. Keep the thread on the topic of OP.

>>643547

OP, fill us in on your situation so we can help you more. Why are you overseas (serving in the military, missionary work, visiting family, work, etc)? What emotional blockage is causing you to turn to the bottle?

>>643631

This. Guy in my church got straightened out thanks to AA

OP here, not a local to this board so thank you mods for not deleting.

>>643561

Anon, i'd like to thank you. I get the tremors when I try to quit, I get the anxiety and the hallucinations. I have no support. Thank you for the video. I'm so winnie the poohed but and this video has just made realise it.

>>643563

Thank you for your kind words anon, i'm not a catholic, I no longer believe in denominations either. I went to a methodist church as a child, then to a presbytaryian as I got confirmed. I think all organised religions is a tool of satan. I believe in Jesus Christ as my saviour and what the bible tells me, no building, denomination or man made rules will tell me otherwise but I will love you as my brother and I cannot thank you enough for writing your kind words. Thank you anon, with all my heart. I appreciate your feedback and I have capped it for the morning if I wake up alive. God Bless.

>>643590

The jews are bastards okay. It's not a nice topic to talk about, i've lost a lot of friends due to blatant truths. I don't know what to believe when it comes to hitler but I do not see Israel as a land of milk and honey when it's owned by the rothschilds and a haven of people who are worse than me. They are satanic in their very nature but practice judaism. The fact that most americans think of israel as their greatest ally is a deception and a joke at very best. Don't argue with me, read your bible and compare.

>>643593

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Thank you for the kind words anon. I went to my neighbour this evening and we drank more. I'm in a state of auto-pilot. I don't really get drunk, rather I get persuaded into a state of being stoned. I'm not sure if that makes sense but I no longer get drunk, I just get vibed out and I can't properly be myself but i'm still able to function. I've been drinking for almost 12 years now and I break down and cry every time I reflect on what I am. I haven't even read your post except for the last sentence. I'll revisit this in the morning and read the full excerpt. I'm sorry, i'm sorry and I thank you for defending me as you dd in your first stanza. all my love to you brother. Thank you for putting your time and effort in to hel me.

>>643598

Thanks, the church guys are snobs, the people in church are heathens. I feel like the link when I think of the church https://vimeo.com/73261196

>>643728

My God! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not sure how to put this into words but I teared up reading your words and seeing your picture. I just want to go back man. I just want to see my loved ones again. I just want to say goodbye to them and say sorry and say that I love them. I'm so fu.cking lonely. I miss them so much. I wish I could turn back time but I can't and I hope to see them again. Hopefully, God-willing, I will see them again one day.

Have you no discipline?

It is one thing to get your ass of the couch and go to the gym.

And another far easier is not getting it of the couch and going to the fridge.

Just don't do it. Don't you have free will?

>>643728

they died by the way. and my blood brother doesn't talk to me. And everything went to s.hit when the people died. I'm so f.ucking lost. I keep crying like a f..ucking baby but I know that God doesn't sleep. And God knows everything. I feel like a spoilt child. I know that probably all of you are such good people, and here I am, sinning everyday and being a cunt and wishing I could be like you guys but I tell you it isn't easy. I feel like i'm a schizo and the demons play with me when I start getting on the edge. Voices play, dreams, visions and mind-fu.cks all happen along with the usual nonsense. I've become a slave to since but I just wish to off myself and be with God. I want to see the people who are no longer on this earth. I'm tired of working and struggling. I just want to break free.

>>643740

I do gym because I cannot afford the medical bills anymore, so I work it out instead. But my free will is pathetic when it comes to the drink as well as cigarettes. Hard drugs are easy to quit in comparison. My friend died and he was on H. The hospital ultimately killed him, but i'd rather not go into that. I'm so f.ucking sick of being sick and tired. I'm sorry to blogging about it on here but IDK what to do or where to look anymore.

>>643547

You have to drink so much in one night you'll have gastritis for three days straight. I can't even think of alcohol now or I'll puke.

>>643728

It is all I have. It is all I want. My God is a beautiful and wonderful, graceful and forgiving God. I wish this happens to my entire family first, before me. And then, if he would me so kind as to grant me eternal salvation, my Lord would be my own. Forever and ever. It is the most beautiful thing I can't even begin to fathom and yet, here I sit and wonder. God Bless

>>643746

I'm a machine m8, I drink approx 3l a day, 5l on a norm. It's not normal. I wish I could quit.

>>643748

3L of what? Hard liquor? How are you still even alive?

>>643749

Wine mostly, brandy on the occasions. Beer daily.

>>643737

> I get the anxiety and the hallucinations

You have to stop drinking now. Alcohol is both killing you and making you unable to realize it. When you stop drinking, those hallucinations are just a symptom of the damage alcohol has done, without being hidden by even more alcohol

>>643547

Have you tried a psychiatrist? They have good ways in which to make you drink less and also know pills dedicated to acoholics.

Stay safe, keep in touch with your family and go seek help from a psychiatrist.

>>643754

I know that. I've drank effing 4 l of red wine and 3 rum and cokes today alone. I woke up with the shakes and continued to drink wine to calm myself down. I feel like shit. I f.uking hate it man. I know i'm screwed. I need a miracle, not an AA meeting or some BS life thing, I need help and I don't know what do anymore. I am hurting and I feel guilty and I want to quit my life. Does that make sense? If I still had a gun it would have been used on my head.

>>643755

jewish magicians who make money off of feeding off other peoples miserable existences. Not all of them, but as an avid researcher and scholar myself, i'd rather not even go there. I wish I was a dumber person with a less inquiring mind… because psychiatry is pure horse-shit when compared to the gospels. Thanks for your kind words though. And as I said, I can't say hi to my family because I lost them.

>>643757

Do you like being drunk? The taste? The miracle we always need is the strength that God's grace gives us.

You should consider looking for another kind of drink you really like, or, somehow, preventing you from getting more alcoholic drinks

I'm leaving now. Thank you guys. Sorry for being a bitch or being a pussy or even talking about this shit. I'm not an attention whore but i've obviously fluked things and effed it all up. Thank you guys. PLEASE do not think that I am not grateful to each and every one of you for your kind words and suggestions. I wish to send my love to all of you. Please kill this thread now. Thank you to all of you who were there for me in a time of need. I have so much love for you and I hope that God will pull all of you through with whichever matter is bothering your life. God Bless and good night.

>>643757

From watching the first video it sounds like you need to find a medical detox place that will taper you off alcohol slowly because you're consuming superhuman amounts right now. You're gonna be seeing pink elephants if you try to go cold turkey. Just find some place that will lock you up and force you to slowly taper off to lower and lower amounts of alcohol till you can quit safely. Look up medical detox on Google to find a place in your area.

>>643762

I am trying to get away from reality. I want to be with God. I drink to forget and to remember. Does that make sense to you? I cannot function without it anymore.

>>643762

Goodnight anon. I hope you have a beautiful day.

>>643766

I've been trying to do that but I am flying solo. I keep f.uckign it up and that's why i need your prayers. I do not have the money or the ability to go to rehab, but maybe I can do it myself and taper it off. I try and this is my 6th time trying.

>>643766

Goodnight anon. God Bless and thank you for the advice. Love you.

>>643770

Okay you are in my prayers bro.

>>643563

Sorry, i didn't mean to come off as a troll or a shill but I can't help but have sympathy for germany considering all the red pills that are being provided to us. It's like the west has chosen to turn a blind eye to germany and ignore blatant truths. History is written by the victor and my realisations of what really happened came from reading a long list of western authors and their actions during world war 2. Thanks for you kind words though, it means a lot to me. Sorry for not linking to you originally, I went down too fast. God Bless.

>>643773

Thank you dude. You have no idea what that means to me. Can I please pray for you tonight as well? Just anything. I just want to speak to God tonight as well and I will pray for you. Could I please pray for something on your behalf? Thanks brother.

>>643775

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=BdF41Ne2cnQ

Don't go full 1488 on these guys. But I hear what you're saying. I'm still in consideration but reckon that in all probability, you're right. There'll be a time in the end days when Israel will be evil for surely they'll accept the rebuilding of the 2nd temple, as well as accept the anti-christ. I wish people would break away from MSM and break away from BS and just read their bibles. But look, here I am, a shithead sinner. We're all bastards aren't we? Maybe not by addictions like I am, but all in the same mess. Godspeed.

>>643775

Goodnight bro.

>>643767

Ironically, now the worst part of reality is what alcohol causes. We don't need to get away from reality. We are strong, and God provides. If you truly want to remember, look for a hobby, or some activity that can help you remember the beauty in simple, innocent things. Get some nice puzzle, bake a cake, carve wood, help some older people. With God, the simplest of things make us forget the misery of the world and make us remember what we are called to be.

Love all of you guys. You're all strangers to me but you all spent your time to give me some love and reply. I thank you all for that. God Bless you all. Good night and thank you for making me feel happy inside. IDK why, but there is love here and I just wanted to tell you all that I felt loved tonight by reading all your words. Goodnight anons. all my love. Let's make this a QTDDTOT or even just a prayer request thread. I may be messed up but let's keep the thread going by hearing all our probs and let's start a fellowship? At least, that's my last minute post before I sign out. Did you guys listen to KOL- walls that I posted? I hope you guys did. Regardless, I thank you all. So much!

>>643784

You are correct. I have given this very advice to other addicts. It's funny how we can never follow our own advice. The problem is, is that nothing makes me excited anymore, unless when my life is in danger. Perhaps I was meant to be a soldier? I do not know anymore. I do not like violence. I do not like loss… I am - let us just not go there. Thank you for the advice though. Good night anon.

Sleep well .

>>643561

the winnie the pooh seizures!!! I need God .

>>643561

Thank you for the video.

>>643791

LOOOOL!!!!!

>>643786

Personally, I do not really like to just experience. I like to create things, to somehow participate in the creation of beauty. Maybe you shouuld ponder about what activities would really make you happy, never forgetting about God.

Good night.

>>643791

Thanks anon. I laughed so much, I laughed as much as I did when I first saw the "pls insert disc 2" pics. Thanks anon. Watching the first YT reply. Makes a lot of sense. I think i'm going to die soon but as a white aryan male with his God-given identity, I will fight my existence until death. Godspeed.

>>643793

Good night

>>643794

no problem mate. how are you getting the alcohol? buying it? maybe dont buy it and buy weed instead. have you ever tried substituting the alcohol for weed before? it could help

>>643547

Ignore cravings and impartially observe thoughts without reacting to them when they come up.

>>643547

Say no more fam, here's something to terrify the alchohol right out of you.

>>643547

You just stop. Those who engage in drunkenness will not inherit the kingdom of heaven as St Paul said

I thought I was going to drink myself to death too. I got 2 or 3 months sober. It took a few attempts but eventually I stayed quit at least up until now. Honestly though alcohol hasn't appealed to me besides the occasional brief craving and I feel allot better. I just stay away from it.

One thing I did that was a big help is never leave the house with enough money to buy alcohol. I still don't. That way if the temptation strikes it takes me longer to go back home and get my cash so I can go out and buy, by then I've had more time to consider what I was doing. When I carried cash on me it was too easy and quick to turn into a liquor store or whatever.

Another thing that struck me is when I really though hard about how much I enjoyed alcohol I realized I wasn't enjoying it. I enjoyed brief periods of drunken euphoria which cost hours and days of sickness and allot of money. That was a sobering realization, "I'm only drinking because it feels good and it doesn't really feel good so this is foolish."

As for the scripture

Proverbs 20:1

>Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

I've been reading Proverbs allot. I'm not wise but I want to be. Drunkeness is pure foolishness. I'll never be wise if I continue to drink. I want wisdom more. No matter how bad life is drunkenness only makes it worse.

You can do it man. It's just a chemical, you're very likely not getting any of the pleasure or relief part of you thinks you're getting from consuming it and once you stop for awhile you'll often wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Once that crap is out of your system your brain chemistry stabilizes, your moods calm down, you feel physically better. If you drink mega heavy you may have to go through some physical withdrawal, and if you need a hospital go, but it's like a flu. I can take a flu. Then it's all in our head. Just don't give up. You will stop. God has not and will not abandon you.

>>644234

You don't think he's been trying it that way forever? If people could stop on their own, why haven't they already done it?

If you don't believe in the spiritual, if you're a materialist, then you know that his actions are determined based on biological inputs- free will is an illusion. That being said, how do you expect stating what you obviously don't actually believe will help.

Jesus can save us, he can break the bonds of the world view you're espousing, grant us strength and life if we believe it has been done.

Your view seems self-contradictory, unless you're attempting to manipulate his mind via your speech which means you have an agenda as much as any other.

>>643740

>Just don't do it.

That is horrifyingly bad advice.

Anons! OP here, I went clean for 3 days! well, the 3rd day I relapsed and now i'm pissed…. but I am working on it. I'm on my last winnie the pooh beer that i own and i am going to seperate myself from work. The first day and the second day - well anons! IDGAF who you are but I just wish to thank you from the bottom of my heart for praying for me. I think I am going to make it. I know the enemy dwells in these places too so I plead the blood, water and spirit of Jesus Hamashiach over all of us. I pray His Heavenly Hosts set a territory around our homesteads - be that of ours, our children, our parents or our grandparents - this includes our territories, possessions, pets and loves ones. I literally call upon the Lord of Nazareth to bring safety to us all like an umbrella. May all those who curse us be blocked in the name of Jesus Christ and through His Blood, May those who come against us be avenged sevenfold to protect us as dismantle the enemy in order to turn them to our side. For Jesus is coming. I slipped, but regained composure. Thank you to all the anons! All my live!

>>644189

I haven't watch the full video yet. I don't really want to.. but trust me, I will… anon. I've been doing well so far. I caved but next week I will. I promise. God Bless you. Thanks for being the person I need. "Say no more fam" - you're a f.u.king legend m8! Godbless.

>>646395

May they be blocked- an then avenged*