17b43d No.643398
Favorite theologians and/or Christian apologists? Bonus points if they're contemporary.
81ffa8 No.643399
e96b91 No.643402
b27da8 No.643426
>>643398
hows he not been mentioned yet?
95da51 No.643446
>>643398
Bill Craig is pretty good for a contemporary name.
>>643430
stop
cd3418 No.643448
>>643430
Can this man possibly be photographed and not look like a total tool?
b24fb2 No.643449
CS Lewis
Gary Habermas (my personal favourite)
William Lane Craig
NT Wright
John Lennox
7bf9b9 No.643470
>>643430
I don't know what would be worse, this being a joke or not.
>>643448
The camera only registers.
ad50d5 No.643480
>>643398
The following are also my answers >>643426 >>643446
I'd also add RC Sproul and though I'd like to say John MacArthur, I'm not sure he qualifies as either theologian or apologist. Expositor, teacher, sure. Then again, he's written 50 million volumes of commentary of the New Testament, so …
>>643430
Am I supposed to know who this is?
Am I supposed to care?
cd3418 No.643496
>>643480
>Am I supposed to know who this is?
>Am I supposed to care?
He's the primary driving force behind the latest incarnation of the "cultural Christian" phenomenon. He tries to marry new age Christian flavored spirituality with evolutionary behaviorism by cherry picking things from better thinkers who are probably turning in their graves with how he's abusing their works. His entire goal is to get out in front of the current spiritual reawakening and make sure it's properly twisted into blind obedience to the secular status quo.
31ab15 No.643550
378a9a No.643553
>>643496
This.
Jordan Peterson is the reason why I don't trust that psychologists are actually out to help me.
b24fb2 No.643568
9cb753 No.643998
I usually never see Ravi Zacharias or Nabeel Qureshi or David wood mentioned.
Is this a given that most people don't like them?
6ef692 No.644024
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>>643998
I like David Wood. I imagine plenty of others around here do as well. There is/was a Christianity vs Islam general that always had tons of DavidvWood stuff in it.
81ffa8 No.644027
>>644024
Wood is a memelord, not very appropriate for serious discussion
dfe7e0 No.644032
>>643998
I like Ravi and Wood; I hadn't heard of Qureshi. I didn't list them simply because they escaped my mind at the time tbh.
81ffa8 No.644033
>>644032
>I hadn't heard of Qureshi
Are you new to Wood's channel?
dfe7e0 No.644070
>>644033
I'm not a regular on his channel tbh, I've only seen him with Sam Shamoun(sp?).
62b429 No.644126
>>643448
>>643446
>>643470
>>643496
>>643553
why the disdain, isnt he a good Christian apologist? he has brought many into the faith and renewed the interest for Christianity for those who had given up on it.
He was a good influence on me in that sense.
Now i'm reading saint Augustine, Lewis, The Bible, going to mass again and actually enjoying it for the first time in my life. You can bet i'd be lost forever on religiosity/Christianity if it wasnt for him, the hold the current nefarious culture had on me had turned me against the religious education my parents gave me.
I must always be grateful to this man, he brought me back to a good path of which i'll never stray again.
No need to agree with everything he says though, i certainly dont.
53ce9f No.644134
How can you not love this guy after watching him mop the floor with Bart Ehrman?
53ce9f No.644136
>>644126
Peterson is not a Christian, friend.
7e03ae No.644146
john lennox by far. reasonable arguments, tries to make listeners think, knows what he's talking about when he makes something a part of his argument (which i can't say about everything i heard from william lane craig - he's not bad, but not quite on the same level as lennox). his german is also really good - he knows how to express himself for a non-native speaker. i was pretty impressed and he's overall just nice to listen to.
0be9fa No.644157
>>644134
By seeing that he spergs out as soon as you mention Steve Ray?
947c0b No.644161
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Ravi Zacharias, contemporary indian Christian apologist. Big fan.
Embeded is one of my favourite speeches. Why? He answers a difficult question that i have struggled with.
e96b91 No.644162
>>644126
No, he's a satanist zionist puppet that is only there to push apathy via classical liberalism.
Quick reminder that "Do What Thou Wilt" is satanic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema
947c0b No.644165
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John Piper is also very good. I recommend.
53ce9f No.644166
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>>644157
Seems like a fair treatment to me.
77be22 No.644204
I've been reading an orthodox priest named Pavel Florensky. He is a polymath educated in many areas, and his historical typology is spot on. One of the greatest minds of the XX — if not the greatest.
If any of you is familiarized with the modern world crisis theories then you should read him.
665f4a No.644298
>>644161
Hey thanks for sharing. Good stuff.
17b43d No.644321
>>644134
the Calvinist who gets triggered when reminded that the church fathers all believed in real presence mopped with the floor with Fart Erhman? link?
32b52d No.644395
>>644134
To be fair, mopping the floor with Bart Ehrman isn't very hard. He has been the punching bag for Christian apologetics for some time.
>>644204
>Pavel
fd0bc2 No.644455
>>643398
>Judaeo-Christian
Christianity is Judaism. It is the direct continuation of the faith of Abraham, Moses, and all the other Jews before christ. Comparing Christianity(the continuation of Judaism, in fact, Judaism) and the faith of the Pharisees of the past 2000 years is shitty.
5ceae9 No.644469
>>644462
>who made God
It's amazing how many of them think this is a good argument when all it does is portray a complete lack of understanding of metaphysics.
95da51 No.644470
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>>644126
Peterson is not a Christian, he's a jungian, and a borderline gnostic.
>>644134
>mop the floor with Bart Ehrman
Did we watch the same debate? Because in the one I watched James was stuck having to defend an assertion(that no reading has dropped out of the text tradition) for which he had no hard evidence for, and was in denial he was doing so. He really just resorted to appeals to human authority.
If you really want to see Ehrman on the defensive watch this debate.
cf700d No.644490
>>644463
I remember him making that joke in a sermon once. Hilarious that somebody actually made it.
1df049 No.644498
>>644470
I wonder if Ehrman realizes how petulant he sounds. Man could stand to lift some weights and get some t back into his body.
ac448b No.644517
>>644470
>Did we watch the same debate?
I dunno if we did, maybe they had multiple debates. But the one I watched, White made him look like a moron. Ehrman had to resort to interrupting him and using crowd appeal tactics like smug laughing, usually following an exchange where White had to correct him or repeat himself because Ehrman is unable to imbibe the arguments of his opposition,
ac448b No.644518
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>>644517
Forgot the embed. This is the cross-examination section of the debate, where you can see what I'm referring to.
1200d5 No.644698
>>644162
>>644136
>>644470
if someone brings people to Christianity he is a christian apologist. i could care less what that persons true beliefs are, what matters is the end result.
for said result i must be thankful to him.
'God writes straight on crooked lines' is usually said.
1c426d No.644941
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>>644698
>if someone brings people to Christianity he is a christian apologist
I guess you don't understand that co-opting a movement is a method of destroying it. Peterson establishes false presuppositions which preclude actual faith in Christ. You can't build a marble statue out of clay.
1df049 No.644961
>>644941
I don't like Peterson either but you're undermining your point by citing an anti-trinitarian like Vox Day for this.
3bfc48 No.644963
>>644961
Vox is a heretic? I only figured out this guy existed today over on 8chan /pol/
419b10 No.644972
>>644963
Vox is 100% a heretic. Denies the Trinity, denies that God is omnipotent/omniscient (see The Irrational Atheist for that one).
Don't get me wrong, I love him and the good work he is doing, but his theology is fubar. Still, he's leagues above "christianity" flavored new age claptrap like Peterson.
1c426d No.644975
>>644961
>>644972
Ad hominem. Vox Day's personal beliefs are irrelevant to the discussion.
81ffa8 No.644977
5b7a12 No.644999
>>644698
I actually first became interested in Christianity because of Peterson. I was a Gnostic Jungian before that, and his Gnostic Jungian talking points were what made me listen. Then I decided to check out the real thing and now I'm here.
1c426d No.645020
>>644999
This is analogous to saying that Christianity led you to Islam, therefore your pastor is a Muslim apologist.
310998 No.645030
>>645020
So you're saying he an Anglican?