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>>642024

Just another one of the Vatican's many pranks

>>642024

Are there any proofs or it's #metoo bullshit?

>>642035

>Not much can be said about what in particular he is being charged of, as the case is still going.

nope

>>642035

The accuser insists he and another boy were assaulted at the same time. The other alleged victim emphatically denied the incident until his death (the incident was like 40 years ago). Pell is despised by the Australian left (especially the newspapers quoted here) and gay rights activists.

>Vatican Treasurer

Probably got in the way of (((them))) from grubbing the vaticans bank and is now paying the price

>>642024

That awkward moment when Benedict XVI will never be able to testify about the clerical sex abuse scandals during his tenure because he has diplomatic immunity even though he's not pope.

Why don´t they sleep with women instead of boys, like most normal men would?

>>642035

We mustn't make definite judgements about people before we are certain that they are lying, but:

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2017/07/the-case-against-cardinal-pell

>>642112

Because one of the biggest pranks the Vatican played on the world is forbidding their clergymen to marry (save some areas of SA, where Catholicism is dying out).

Prots and Orthodox got that one right.

>>642274

>implying that allowing them to be clergymen would solve the problem, and not Leviticus 20:13

>>642242

>ordained lesbian clergy wymyn

Wow so progressive

>>642242

>forbidding people from marrying turns them into pedos

what the

>>642282

>>642288

Here is your (you), samefag

>>642289

All that sexual frustration has to go somewhere. If not in a wife, than in the alter boy.

Leviticus 20:13 is the only solution to the sodomite problem. Ordaining them into the clergy wont turn them into saints.

>>642294

What argument did you have?

<these prots lets sodomites in their clergy, hur hur hur

And? Does that excuse the caths letting in sodomites in their clergy? No.

<but at least our BASED sodomites are men

Doesn't matter, it's still wrong.

>>642290

>All that sexual frustration has to go somewhere

Then why don't they just break their vows and hire a prostitute? It looks like you are projecting something.

>>642311

>And? Does that excuse the caths letting in sodomites in their clergy? No.

At least we TRY to weed them out before ordination. Yours are actually celebrated and given high ranking positions in the name of progressiveness.

>>642317

>implying this hard

Nice try tigger, im not a filthy methodist.

<but the headline said baptist

But their works say methodist

>>642315

>le (((projection))) maymay

Not an argument

>>642323

>But their works say methodist

It's only a prank, bro!

>>642281

>Implying homosexual pedophiles say they are homosexual pedophiles when worming their way into being clergymen

>There are still Catholics on this board

Come on guys, its called Sedevacantism

>>642392

I still hold faith in God: He is punishing us with the current pope; one day, when we'll be few and scattered, He'll send us another good one. We had far worse popes in the past.

>>642242

The vast majority of minor abuse happen inside the family. Saying that priests having a family would therefore make minor abuse less frequent is an absolute non-argument.

>Prots and Orthodox got that one right.

Abuses happen happen among prot ministers and ortho clergy too

>>642242

Good thing no sexual abuse is ever committed by doctors, teachers and sports coaches. After all, they can marry, can't they?

>>642508

>Abuses happen happen among prot ministers and ortho clergy too

Can you point to those denominations that moved hundreds of known child molesters around for decades while covering it up? A cover up that went to the highest levels of authority in the church?

A better argument would be to say the RCC Abuse rates are not different then regular society

>>642201

What an appalling case. I mean, how can one even defend himself against such unverifiable statements? The saddest thing is that the press worldwide is treating him as a sexual predator.

These are sure dark times we're living in. Let's pray Cardinal Pell gets a fair trial.

>>642528

I know right, it's just as well all those celebrities and producers in Hollywood can marry otherwise there would be a rape epidemic.

>>642530

>Can you point to those denominations that moved hundreds

Don't forget there are more Catholics than all other Christian denominations combined. There's 450,000 RC clergy today, and another million Brothers and Sisters.

>>642545

Lol

>>642242

Orthodox clergy doesnt have pedos? sorry i have bad news.

https://www.pokrov.org/status/convicted/

http://www.newsweek.com/priest-guilty-violent-sex-acts-children-orthodox-christian-youth-camps-783725

https://www.rferl.org/a/serbia-orthodox-church-bishop-orgies-rape-scandal/24965214.html

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russian-orthodox-priest-suspected-of-pedophilia-detained-in-israel-39637

>>642661

You know there's a big difference from having a pedo priest to having a literal pedo mafia inside your church with ties reaching to the pope himself

Also if an Ortho priest is accused for anything (not just pedo things) he is removed quickly from his post even if there're no proofs for it.

>>642687

>literal pedo mafia inside your church with ties reaching to the pope himself

Slander is a sin anon. If you do not have proof of what you're saying then you should not say it, lest you slander ones name.

hey, wasn't cardinal Pell that one who won debate with Dawkins or something?

>>642696

Didn't he cover up a huge pedo scandal in Chile recently and attacked the victims? I believe it's pretty obvious.

>>642687

You know as well as I do that only happens because only catholics are targeted because the orthodox Church is an indredibly small fraction. People don't even know the orthodox church exists.

And be thankful, since as you said, any leftist can come up with accusations to remove whoever is convenient from any position.

>>642702

Here it is

>>642274

>Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

>1 Corinthians 7:2

>>642687

>Also if an Ortho priest is accused for anything (not just pedo things) he is removed quickly from his post even if there're no proofs for it.

Is this real? Because this is terrible way to handle things.

>>642024

>As an Australian, I'd like to here what perspective people of other countries

Ooooh, as an ozfailian too, i cannot be other countries?

A radical thought, though . . .

>essentially the treasurer of the Vatican

>and he was once believed to be in the running to replace Pope Francis when he dies

>Francis … promot[ed] Pell to head the newly constituted Secretariat of the Economy, with a brief to reform the Vatican finances … [then] canceled the audit Pell had planned, and … gradually retracted Pell’s prerogatives …

What if those who have been profiting from the

>financial corruption of the Curia … malfeasance and embezzlement

… conspired to have Pell brought home on sexual abuse charges to prevent him discovering the truth about the money or reforming things so that the running tap is stopped … or worse yet … l'horreur!! … becoming the next Pope to stop the rot!!

I say there's (a) a pretty strong incentive to pay for some lawyers for some abused guys now in the 40s to make false accusations, and (b) a pretty damn fine thriller film to be had out of this premise

>>643151

>Is this real? Because this is terrible way to handle things.

Not literally, but the Orthodox Church is expedient in dealing with trespassers and does not get caught up on legalisms. The Catholic Church was sheltering pedophiles, the Orthodox Church could never do that.

>>643159

>expedient

What I mean is "speedy". English is not my mother tongue.