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c2fbe1 No.630156

Hello!

I come here for first time because I seek for help and as chans' regular user I don't know any better place to turn myself to than going on /christian/ board.

I was being atheist whole my life and recently I started to think about converting myself to christianity. I have commited many sins through my life and most of them I don't remember and maybe I don't have a chance of going to heaven, but that doesn't mean I can't start living a better life and eventually give a good example to others. The problem is I don't know how to do it. I have basically zero knowledge about christianity. I don't know prayers, sacraments, didn't read Bible(yet, I will do it), literally nothing. Do you know where I could get all that informations? Some website or few would be perfect. Beside of that I don't know if I should turn myself to catholicism or protestantism. I live in catholic country, but generally papacy and confessing to another human doesn't seem right for me. On another hand protestantism was created a long time after catholicism, so I would question it as true faith - protestants did it trouble you sometime?

Well, I can't think what to ask more about for now, but probably I will do it later in this thread.

Thank you for replies in advance. :)

8bbdcb No.630166

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e30df9 No.630167

>>630156

Give Orthodoxy a try. Best way to learn about Christianity is to find a parish and ask the priest all of your questions. Tell them that you're an atheist considering conversion and they'll probably devote plenty of time to answering any questions you have.

Reading the Bible is probably a good idea but don't attempt to come to any hard conclusions from it. It's a millennia old document and its meaning is distorted by language and time. Some verses may appear to mean one thing when they actual mean something else because it was written in such a different time and in a different culture.


5ffb63 No.630185

>>630167

This is good advice. But I'd say give orthodoxy a try by putting yourself on the road toward begoming Gadolic, and visiting a Catholic parish and priest, especially since op is in a Catholic country.


175900 No.630188

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077ed9 No.630195

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>>630156

>I don't know prayers, sacraments, didn't read Bible

How about you throw the first two out the window and read the Bible for starters and research the passages that seem fishy to you or don't understand in their Greek/Hebrew origin. Get at least two different Bible translations for comparison; one with and without commentary; I do recommend the Rotherham Study Bible (because it is the most honest study Bible you can buy) and then a pure King James Bible with Apocrypha. You'd have a modern and an old translation and there is not much that could go wrong. Ignore the denominations and go to churches not for theological reasons (because chances are zero to none to find one that is not utterly heretical) but for the community. Keep in mind that it takes a lot of time to read through and study the Bible; 4-6 months at least to get to the base level.

Start with the Old Testament, then with the New Testament. Look up the New Testament only for doctrinal purposes beforehand, but you can actually read it how you want; it's the way I see the best for newcomers. If you read as I said, then, before you reach the book of Joshua, make sure to watch all of his (http://www.jewsforhitler.com) videos in order to cleanse everything the Jewish media and Zionist Christians have told you about Christianity. Don't listen to anons that ignore the Jewish Question, don't listen to anons who are bigoted about their shitty denominations. Read the Bible, internalize all the doctrine of the Old Law that isn't lifted by the New Covenant; which is, summarized: love your neighbor as yourself, and this you do by abiding God's perfect law.


6f0820 No.630198

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Really stupid responses in this thread.

>>630156

Read the 4 gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. If you don't have a Bible, you can read them over there:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NKJV

The gospel of Matthew is written for Jews.

The gospel of Mark is written for those under persecution.

The gospel of Luke is written for Gentiles (non-Jews).

The gospel of John is a theological gospel.

After that, go to a church. Go to churches of several traditions (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant) to get a good feel of all three. You will see how we worship differently on Sunday.

After having visited the churches around you (I'd say, check out everything within a 1 hour vicinity, except if there are too many), stick with one that you liked. Every Sunday, you will have a community to worship with, and you will hear a commentary of the Scriptures. Maybe you won't stay there, but you need a community for spiritual nurishment until you get a better idea of where you'll end up.

Next, read a catechism. Maybe read something of your own church, maybe read something of everything if you have the time and interest.

For Catholicism: there is the Catechism of the Catholic Church

>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

For Orthodoxy: there is the Living God catechism

>https://www.amazon.com/Living-God-Catechism-Christian-Volumes/dp/0881410403/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522956461&sr=8-1&keywords=living+god+catechism

or, if you have more time on your hands, "The Orthodox Church" and "The Orthodox Way"

>https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Church-Introduction-Eastern-Christianity/dp/014198063X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522956505&sr=1-1&keywords=the+orthodox+church

>https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Way-Kallistos-Ware/dp/0913836583/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522956537&sr=1-1&keywords=the+orthodox+way

For Protestantism: I honestly have no clue, sorry. Somebody else can suggest something.

With all this in mind… Before, during, or after you read the catechism(s), you should get to reading the entire Bible. You should interpret it through the lens of the 4 gospels, and what you hear at church through the hymns and sermons.

I suggest the Revised Standard Version for the Old Testament (especially as it has the Orthodox canon)

>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=RSV

and the New King James Version for the New Testament

>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NKJV

If you have any questions about anything, ask the priest/pastor of the church you've decided to stay with.




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