/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>629653

Why do protestants have no decoration whatsoever?

I'm not baiting, I truly want to know. Is it a reflection of their simplistic beliefs?

Also:

>front row

>>629659

>iconoclasm

I see. Thank you.

>>629657

Soulwinning is much more important

>>629666

We can agree on that, but if it was only that then you wouldn't have prots who break statues of Mary with hammers and tear down catholic altars

>>629659

That seems like just one of the new age crappy rock band churches

>>629667

That's because those are idolatrous and should be destroyed. There are nice looking protestant and Baptist churches that don't have statues

>>629672

I always wonder why Christ is depicted as a skinnyfaggot. Dude was a carpenter, not some pussy.

>>629672

Because that isn't Jesus

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

>>629676

And he had short hair

14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

Also he wasn't naked on the cross like he's often depicted. It says the romans put his clothes back on him

>>629672

>>629678

Also he wasn't that pale.

>>629678

Define short hair

>>629668

Yeah, it was more of an Evangelical 'positive thinking' group than anything else. I never even knew that Presbyterians were Calvinist until I made an effort to learn about theology myself because the catechism they gave me was that bad.

>>629680

Just google image search "short male hair"

>>629681

>>629683

No, he had a seperate cloth for his face

6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,

7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

>>629685

1 Corinthians 11

You probably could have just copy and pasted the aoute into to google and it would pop up

>>629697

>During the resurrection God allowed His face to be imprinted to the cloth dude

No, it would have been on the seperate napkin for his face not the one for his body

>catholic aesthetics

Idolatry*

>>629705

Easy there John C. Lilly.

Orthodox have the best esthetics.

Catholics lose point for 2 things: 1) religious art isn't theological enough, 1.5) religious art isn't prevalent in church enough, 2) a lot of modern Catholic religious art you see in church is garbage.

Everything else Catholic is kino though. I'm not hating.

>>629698

>No, it would have been on the seperate napkin for his face not the one for his body

To quote some Calvinist

The "napkin" was the sudarium or facecloth (i.e. the "Sudarium of Oviedo") a smaller cloth placed over a Jewish corpses' face and around its head (as we do in our Western culture). As in the Rovere painting above, in the tomb the facecloth was removed, Jesus' body was laid on the lower half of the Shroud, and then the top half of the Shroud was taken over His head and overlapped at His feet.

Calvin doesn't seem to understand that the "napkin" or headcloth (the Sudarium of Oviedo) was first taken off Jesus' head and then the Shroud was drawn over His body, "The sudarium … was used during the descent from the cross and during the transport of the body to the tomb … It was then removed and placed separately in the tomb":

"Garcia's studies show that the Sudarium of Oviedo had to have been used before wrapping the body in any other linen, particularly in the Shroud of Turin. The image of the face on the Shroud of Turin, as well as that of the lateral surface of the head, negates the possibility that this person had another linen placed around his head. The stains of blood on the Sudarium of Oviedo also point in the same direction. The sudarium therefore, was not part of the shrouding process. It was used during the descent from the cross and during the transport of the body to the tomb, in order to cover the disfigured face of Jesus, according to the orders of the Sanhedrin, and to prevent loss of blood. It was then removed and placed separately in the tomb. John 20:7 also indicates that Jesus, had the Sudarium placed on his head before the burial, but not after. It would have been necessary to remove the cloth in order to anoint the facial wounds, and would not have been used to cover the face once again due to the large amount of blood it contained. It was sufficient to wrap the body in a clean white linen shroud, and is unthinkable that a dirty, bloodstained linen would have left in place on the head of Jesus. While Jewish burial customs would have exempted Jesus from the washing ritual, a clean shroud was required by law."

>>629702

Yes

>>629727

>Virgin Mary

Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

>>629727

yes

>>629725

what do u think of my room man? is it idolatry?>>629731

but even from a non catholic perspective. It's Child Christ and His mother Mary. Whats so bad about that?

>>629731

You realise all the honor given to Mary is because she is the Theotokos, mother of our Lord Jesus Christ, and all the praise is strictly because of Him?

For example, in an old church song, she is the golden doorknob, because she opened the way.

>>629727

Yes

>>629657

John 4:24 "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

>>629657

>a reflection of their simplistic beliefs?

Could be, as most protestants have no idea what to believe. Hence all the various denominations.

>>629671

>Sacred Heart of Jesus

>Orthodox

>>629727

Comfy.

>>629769

"Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

Christ grew inside of Mary and she gave him birth, so to follow His steps, we must grow within her so we can be born like Jesus Christ. She gave birth to Christ, the head of the Church, she need to give birth to other parts of the body, us, or have you ever witness a mother giving birth to only the head of a child?

>>629784

>Christ grew inside of Mary and she gave him birth, so to follow His steps, we must grow within her so we can be born like Jesus Christ. She gave birth to Christ, the head of the Church, she need to give birth to other parts of the body, us, or have you ever witness a mother giving birth to only the head of a child?

No joke that's the most pagan thing I've ever seen on this board