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>I need to masturbate

That's just your brain screaming in agony anon, ignore it and it'll find something else to do, like a small child

>but I don't want to because it will lead to SINFUL VIEWING

Very true

>HELP ME ANONS.

We can't. You already know it's wrong, you already know the consequences, you have to make the decision to submit or scream bloody havoc to prove who's real, You or the you who craves porn.

>>629264

>>629262

yes but BLUEBALLS HURT

You can masturbate without looking at porn. Go cold turkey on porn and just use your imagination. After about a month you'll stop feeling compelled to look at porn. Then cut down on how often you masturbate and gradually reduce it to zero. It's important that you stop looking at porn immediately and resolve to not look at it and keep that resolution in your mind.

>>629258

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81A31hlgEA

Listening to music always helps me in situations like this.

Lift and pray, my dude.

What should one do if not fapping leads to meeting with prostitutes, but fapping daily clears ones mind, allowing one to focus on God?

>>629294

The overactive libido that comes from masturbation is a bodily habit. You break that bodily habit the same way you break any bodily habit, by gradual weaning. Going cold turkey when your body is used to daily orgasm is setting yourself up for a massive wave of temptation that will be very difficult to resist. It's like if you're used to eating a normal amount every day, and suddenly fast, you're going to experience excruciating hunger the first few days, and likely break your fast. But if you prepare yourself for the fast by gradually eating less and less over the preceeding weeks, you'll experience much less hunger and so be able to complete your fast successfully. You can go cold turkey on porn because that while having an aspect of a bodily habit can be replaced with imagination with much less addictive effects. If you can't get off without porn you're pretty far gone. I don't see this as capitulation so much as doing what it takes to actually break a habit.

>>629316

Not masturbating should decrease your libido over time, and after a month or so it should be easy to resist the temptation to see prostitutes so long as you never actually give in to that temptation.

>>629258

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>>629340

>never felt guilt or shame

You're well on your way to killing the Holy Spirit within, nice going bro! Soon you'll see how much easier things are without that silly Bible getting in the way!

>No verse against it

God killed Onan for spilling his seed on the ground, fool.

>>629258

Abstain from anime OP. It's a lecherous paganistic escapist medium.

>>629340

It's a huge waste of time, energy (not just calories), nutrients, and motivation. You'd do better to put all that effort toward finding a wife or doing a productive hobby.

You don't need to masturbate, OP. You need food, you need water, you need sleep, but you don't need masturbation.

>>629375

>God killed Onan for spilling his seed on the ground, fool.

Because he was bound by law to impregnate his dead brother's wife, and refused to do so. Does someone go to hell if they have a wet dream, thus spilling their seed on the ground?

But yes, addiction of any kind is bad and should be brought under control.

>>629405

He was bound to do this by his father Judah. Onanism is specifically about masturbation and pulling out to waste your seed.

>>629405

>Does someone go to hell if they have a wet dream, thus spilling their seed on the ground?

Very false equivalence. One is mandated by the body as regulatory practices, and entirely involuntary; further, you're not dumping the prime reproductive materials in a wet dream, your body is discarding the really old stuff it just couldn't find a way to re-purpose. In short, it has a practical use.

Masturbation while fully awake and conscious has no practical use, it is purely for hedonism's sake.

>>629317

>You break that bodily habit the same way you break any bodily habit, by gradual weaning.

Or you break it by stopping cold turkey. I've gone from twice a day to four days straight clean now, never felt better. Was it difficult? Sure, but again, I'm up at 6 right now feeling fully rested because, I largely suspect, my body isn't having to waste any energy replacing a single iota of semen or sperm. Further, my sleep schedule is regulating itself, as is a workout schedule, etc. etc. Really, kill this habit in its entirety, no going back, and everything else fixes itself to follow suit. Linger, and you're still giving ground.

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>>629430

I've only managed to quit cold turkey once. Other times I tried going cold turkey, the initial waves of temptation when they hit were simply too powerful, even if I resisted the first few. My libido has always been very high, and I was deeply engrained in the habit. I found that gradually cutting down on the habit proved more reliable, and decreased the strength of the temptation when it did come time stop, to the point where it could be easily overcome. The most urgent thing is to get rid of looking at porn, which should be done cold turkey. Adding porn to the habit is what really does you in. It's a worse sin than just masturbation on its own. Stopping both pornography and masturbation at once is a tall order.

>>629430

>One is mandated by the body as regulatory practices, and entirely involuntary

If you have a wet dream, it's because you got aroused during your sleep.

The only times I ever had wet dreams were because I was wearing too loose underwear. I haven't had a nocturnal emission in months now that I am more careful with what I'm wearing.

>>629375

>fool

>(1) and done

>>629430

>it is purely for hedonism's sake.

What pleasures are not hedonistic? Should man live on bread and water alone?

>>629460

>What pleasures are not hedonistic?

Exercise, the satisfaction of a hard day's work, self education, the list is endless.

>>629460

Those that benefit you once said activity is done.

Lifting, studying, praying, martial arts, etc

Bad habits are the exact opposite. They'll make you happy in the moment but miserable after.

Caffeine, illegal drugs, alcohol, masturbating, promiscuous sex, etc.

>>629460

>1 and done

I actually posted in the thread more than once but my ID changed (filthy phoneposter that I sometimes am) it was bad to call you a fool though so I'm sorry for that.

>>629340

I've been on this mindset for a long time, so hear me out.

Realizing that your body is the temple of the holy spirit, that we must not be chained by our bodies, really forced me out of it.

Look, you are simply being controlled by your body. It's simply lust that's controlling you, you want to see a women getting sexual. If it wasn't lustful, you'd do it dry, without having imagining it.

I ask you this then, if we are to be the images of Christ, then can you really say he masturbated? If you say no, then obviously it's the devil's temptation, if you say yes, well I can go into alot of detail on why it would be very contradictory.

>>629483

Polite sage for quick reply

That's a reasonable argument, but I don't feel a crippling urge to do it. I was halfway feeling compelled last night, went to bed anyways because I was tired. Woke up, remembered I was thinking about masturbating, didn't feel like doing it so I didn't. Even now I could, but ehh. It's not an addiction either. After masturbation, instead of regret or guilt, I usually feel great, confident. Put on some music and grab a snack.

1 Cor. 7:9 - But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I solved my (same as OP's) problem by getting married. I found a good Christian girl and haven't looked back. You can too. Get /fit/ in body, in mind, and in spirit, pray, and seek a girl that you can be proud of being married to until the day you die. OTOH, if you're called to be celibate, ask God for help. Pray and figure out what you are called to.

Masturbation is a sin anon. I'm currently going through a period where I really want to masturbate. Satan will try to trick you into justifying it as non-sinful if its to hentai or porn is not used. It is still sinful. Do not let yourself be convinced that you are an exception. The bout of wanting to masturbate will pass. I've passed several, this is just another hiccup.

>Source: Chronic masturbator of 5 times a day for 5 years, now 10 months nofap

>>629340

Genesis 38:9-10 New International Version (NIV)

9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

>>629258

>I want to masturbate

ftfy

>>636376

This my brothers! You're like a heroin addict trying to quit. Once you go through the detoxification phase it's a piece of cake.

Pray the Jesus prayer or Hail Mary.

>>636376

Adding to that, get yourself website blocker and generally spend less time on internet. And when you have thoughts like "I wonder what's new in porn" or something like that immediately cease to browse internet.

Also, pray through the day many times especially three Hail Marys in intention of purity when you wake up and fall asleep, it works wonders

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