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afb8a2 No.628221

Are there any good books on what the earliest Christians believed. And by that I mean the first couple decades after Christ's crucifixion e.g, 33ad-99ad? What heresies arose, what was the standard belief and just overall what they all had in common. Reason why I've been intrigued by this subject is because Josephus doesn't talk about Christians believing Christ was the Son of God. Anyways, don't let that derail the subjects. I'm just looking for some good quality, scholarly and we'll sources historical books on the very, very primitive Christian faith.

Thanks in advance.

God bless

e760c2 No.628224

>>628221

Besides the New Testament, the earliest piece with any claim to authority is probably the Didache, which is an early catechism.

>http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html

This site has a good collection of other writings as well.

Be careful what you read from the first century after Christ though. One of the earliest and strongest heresies was Gnosticism, which produced a lot of fan fiction. A good piece against them is Against Heresies by Irenaeus.


326dac No.628233

>>628221

St. Justing the martyr's writings. And st. Ignatius of Antioch's writings are from the 1st century. We also have a letter to pope Clement from Corinthians, which is the oldest document outside the Bible we have.


3264be No.628238

Read "The Apostolic Fathers in English". It contains almost all of the known writings of 1st and early 2nd century Christians.


8f0956 No.628652

On your point about early Christians and the son of God, Larry Hurtado shows a "high christology" right from the start.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/larryhurtado.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/early-high-christology-clarifying-key-issues-and-positions/amp/

He has alot of essays available on his personal site so don't necessarily have to buy his books. He also has interesting work showing from a historical perspective, the best explanation for these developments in religious practices are religious experiences of the practicioners. In other words , revelation from the holy spirit shows Jesus followers that he is now exalted at the father's right hand.

So all Larry's work just backs up the scriptural picture. So instead of reading Larry just read the scriptures. But nice that someone has put in rigourous historical work without first taking up a doctrinal position and reading back into it.


8f0956 No.628653

Didache is really interesting, especially what it doesn't mention.


32941e No.628682

Why not read straight from the writings of the early Christians, namely the Church Fathers?

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/

I highly recommend St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Clement, Tertullian, St. Jerome, basically all of them.

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35965d No.628690

>>628682

Philip Schaff's collection offers them in a chronological order.

http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html


b84c01 No.628963

>>628224

>>628233

>>628238

>>628690

>>628682

Thanks for your answers guys but I'm already reading the early church fathers. I'm looking for stuff that predates even 1 clement. >>628652 is closer to what I'm looking for.


b84c01 No.628964

>>628653

I've read the didache and it seems to be some handybook for new Christians. Should explain its lack of theological stuff.


b84c01 No.628988

>>628653

I'll also like to add that it also mentions the triune formula of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


0a554d No.629139

>>628964

Exactly, it seems like we in the West post-protestant world still jump straight into a saved by grace through faith with seekers but the apostolic way was to introduce to them to sermon on the mount daily living type stuff. Introduce them to Jesus before Paul. Which makes a lot of sense tbh

>>628988

Didn't really notice/consider that as significant - thanks for pointing it out


dd6eef No.629620

The book of Acts


ac7bef No.629689

>>628682

>church fathers

>early christians

read a fucking book you imbecile


405e13 No.629710

>>629689

>the apostolic fathers are not church fathers

lol


b35180 No.629726

>>628963

There is Didache and Epistle of Barnabas. Clement is third iirc.




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