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>>622733

>How was it not local?

By covering the entire Earth, read your Bible

>>622739

fpbp

>>622733

The floor has been greatly attested for in history even outside of the Bible. However, >>622739 is right just read your Bible silly

>>622739

What about archeological finds from the time of Noah?

>>622747

Like archeologists saying the findings don’t show a flood 4200 years ago

>>622747

Stop trusting the long nose tribe

>>622748

I mean akkadians conquered Sumer and Sumer lived way before 4200 years ago

>>622747

You don't have to dismiss evidence. Science and the Bible simply provides two different viewpoints of looking at the same thing. The question is, do you believe the Bible to be as true as science?

>>622751

I know the Chinese have accounts of a flood around the time Noah lived but Sumer? They are the last stronghold in my view.

>>622752

First of all it was aristoteles, a pagan, who made up the concept of separating religion and science. Secondly I will not rest until I solved this issue

>>622754

If you love Aristotle so much why not just become Catholic so you can mega ultra duliate all over him

>>622759

What I’m saying is his idea is stupid and degenerate, why should Science be opposed to religion

>>622759

Obviously I am against Aristotle and any pagan philosopher for that matter

Here's an interesting take on the Flood I found on the Catholic Encyclopedia:

No Catholic commentator will repudiate an explanation merely for fear of having to admit a miracle; but no Catholic has a right to admit Biblical miracles which are not well attested either by Scripture or tradition. What is more, there are traces in the Biblical Flood story which favour a limited extent of the catastrophe: Noah could have known the geographical universality of the Deluge only by revelation; still the Biblical account appears to have been written by an eye-witness. If the Flood had been universal, the water would have had to fall from the height of the mountains in India to the level of those in Armenia on which the ark rested, i.e. about 11,500 feet, within the space of a few days. The fact that the dove is said to have found "the waters . . . upon the whole earth", and that Noah "saw that the face of the earth was dried", leaves the impression that the inspired writer uses the word "earth" in the restricted sense of "land". Attention has been drawn also to the "bough of an olive tree, with green leaves" carried by the dove in her mouth on her second return to the ark.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04702a.htm

What are your thoughts on this?

>>622768

Very interesting, thanks man

I think it really points towards a local flood, but then usher also could have made a mistake; as I see it, the earth was not created 6000 years ago, but 7500 years ago; that would put the flood instead of 2200 BC at around 3500 BC and that would perfectly fit with all our accounts of the five big ancient civilizations, since they obviously arose after the flood

There have been many civilizations that have lived and died upon The Earth before we got to where we are now. Geologic time, Earth's Climate, and Sentient Civilization repeat themselves over billions of years.

>>622777

> repeat themselves over billions of years.

How? The Earth is only a few thousand years old

>>622754

>>622760

Don't trust Jewish science

>>622779

Earth is around 7500 years old to be precise

https://ncse.com/cej/8/2/flood-mesopotamian-archaeological-evidence

This talks about a flood being well attested by modern scholars. It happened in Mesopotamia, around 3500 BC

>>622788

Earth is a creation of the Lord and beautiful.

>>622791

A planet in the sky, nothing more

>>622773

>>622783

Gobekli Tepi is older than that

>>622797

Either pre flood or it’s not

>>622796

May your soul burn in hell until your wickedness is purified, god willing.

>>622806

You do not make jokes about faith. This site is not for children also

>>622808

Oh wait, it is for children, only nsfw is age restricted

>>622746

Well I certainly hope that the floor has been greatly attested to, otherwise my arguments would have no ground to stand on.

>>622746

I just now noticed that kek

*Flood

>>622733

We don't know for sure, but the antediluvian Earth was most likely very different than the current Earth we are living in now. For example, prior to the Flood, there may have not been any rain or storm systems, the antediluvian Earth could have been covered in a giant mist. We infer this because one of God's first signs He gave Noah from the Ark was the rainbow, which may not have existed prior to the Flood. Another hint could have been the construction of the Ark, the locals may have been mocking Noah not because of the location of the Ark, but the very concept of a boat in and of itself, but we really don't know for sure. Hope this answers your question as to a global flood.

>>622783

I believe all life on this Earth is recent 6,000-12,000 years old, but the Earth and the Universe may be much older than that. One hint is in Genesis 1:2 which already implies the existence of the Earth in a void state but God was simply terraforming it and creating life.

>How was it not local?

Genesis 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

Genesis 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

Genesis 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

You literally have never read the Bible

>>623057

>One hint is in Genesis 1:2 which already implies the existence of the Earth in a void state but God was simply terraforming it and creating life.

No it doesn't. He made the base of the earth the first then added more later

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.