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0ad7b1 No.621579

What if we had an organized street gang like antifa except fighting for a good Christian cause?

02de6b No.621580

>>621579

Such a thing is inherently unchristian.


10fd04 No.621583


0ad7b1 No.621585

>>621580

>>621583

Oh c'mon. Would crashing a few gay pride parades really be so bad?


02de6b No.621589


0ad7b1 No.621590


542403 No.621596

>>621579

Put away your sword.


283ea5 No.621599

File: e9d08bc7a206741⋯.png (4.1 KB, 1000x600, 5:3, Flag_of_the_Legionary_Move….png)

>>621579

>a good Christian cause

Like expelling jews? Sounds good.

>>621580

The Iron Guard was a Christian movement.


8fa89c No.621600

>>621579

Street gang? No. Organized small army or militia? Yes. Except thats illegal and even talking about it seriously will get you on fbi watchlist

>>621599

i hope your posting from a vpn


0ad7b1 No.621609

>>621600

No, no, nothing like a militia. Just some youth to ruin gay pride parades by shouting unfortunate facts about homos through a megaphone and generally give lefties a hard time.


02de6b No.621613

>>621590

Be a peacemaker, but don't shy away from the truth (but don't be unchristian and immodest while speaking it). We speak the truth in love, does shouting at people with a megaphone sound anything like how love is defined?

>Love is patient, love is kind, love is not jealous, it does not boast, it does not become conceited, it does not behave dishonorably, it is not selfish, it does not become angry, it does not keep a record of wrongs, it does not rejoice at unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

We are called to be like Christ who is God who is Love, this is one of our many codes of behavior. If something violates this, then it is not what we ought to be doing.


8fa89c No.621619

>>621609

That will do nothing but make them angrier and give christians a bad name. Shouting at them wont make them disappear. What your describing also sounds similar to what George Lincoln Rockwell did. And look what happend to him.

>>621613

i agree with this anon. But you cant be a peacekeeper spreading muh non pacifist love while gays are infiltrating the school system and brainwashing the youth and millions of babies being murdered every year.

>a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.


0ad7b1 No.621620

>>621613

Christ wasn't a no-necked hippie.

Christ took action when it was necessary. He chased the money changers out of the temple with a bullwhip he made himself.

Christ was quite aggressive with the pharisees when he confronted them, even called them a 'brood of vipers' on one occasion.

I don't see how telling the truth would be any of those things you listed.


542403 No.621622

>>621609

There are groups that do such things already. It doesn't affect much of anything.


73f687 No.621625

>>621579

An militaristic group to save society? We could call it "The Salvation Army"


0d50be No.621627

Do as these men did >>>621353

We only need greater numbers and louder megaphones.


0ad7b1 No.621630

>>621353


0ad7b1 No.621631

>>621627

That's actually what got me thinking about this.


0d50be No.621634

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>>621631

I love where your heart is friend, but resorting to their tactics will get us no where. We need to do as the young men there did and as these men here did. Our presence alone will be enough to silence them, when there are enough of us.


6addfa No.621635

>>621579

A gang? Idk if we should call it that, but as long as it’s not a group of Christians acting like niggers I see nothing wrong with organized Christian groups.


8355b6 No.621639

>>621579

start by creating a force of cyber crusaders. We flush boards from degeneracy!

Also I agree in self defense, for instance the attacks to indonesian christians.


017e15 No.621642

>>621579

Name ONE thing Christians can take form Antifa.


542403 No.621645

>>621639

Meh. Doesn't work too well when all the BO has to do is ban/delete anything we post. Also, calls to raid other boards are frowned upon.

>>621642

They protest, march, and organize under a single banner. There's a lot of power in a unified message.


8fa89c No.621648

File: b9ec42398865105⋯.jpg (67.72 KB, 600x737, 600:737, OYYYYYVEYYYYY.jpg)

OYYYY VEYYY

WHAT IS THIS THREAD STILL DOING UP.

MODS TAKE THIS DOWN RIGHT NOW!!


d24347 No.621649

>>621639

>start by creating a force of cyber crusaders. We flush boards from degeneracy!

Have you not seen the state of this board lately? It backfires every time.


0ad7b1 No.621651

>>621634

>>621635

Not saying we should 'use their tactics' but I think we should have an organization comparable to counter them. When antifa shows up to start screwing around, we would show up get in the way of them vandalizing people's property and rights etc.

>>621639

And we would protect Christian civilians from heathen thugs. But that first line you wrote is just dumb. You can't cleanse the internet of anything.

>>621642

Willingness to act on their beliefs and unwillingness to compromise.


4ee64c No.621653

>>621599

>The Iron Guard was a Christian movement.

The Iron Guard was pretty creepy and cultish, and some of their "let's sacrifice our souls for the Motherland" is heretical.

t. had an uncle in it, and a grandma has lived through that time.


0d50be No.621654

>>621651

>we should have an organization comparable to counter them

>we would show up get in the way of them vandalizing people's property and rights etc

I very much like the sound of this. Similar to what those retarded 'oathkeepers' try to do by putting themselves between police and protestors, but this organization you propose would be significantly less gay about it?


02de6b No.621657

>>621619

>i agree with this anon. But you cant be a peacekeeper spreading muh non pacifist love while gays are infiltrating the school system and brainwashing the youth and millions of babies being murdered every year.

These are not particularly issues for me, yeah, I agree that it's bad, but I'm entirely apolitical.

>>621620

He did indeed, and I submit that to Him, as only God can do something so entirely from a pure place. Very few of us can, so until we can, I believe we should refrain and engage in silence, isolation, and prayer to prepare properly (for however many years this takes).


0ad7b1 No.621658

>>621654

Yes, and we would overtly espouse traditionalist Christian values.

>>621657

>He did indeed, and I submit that to Him, as only God can do something so entirely from a pure place. Very few of us can, so until we can, I believe we should refrain and engage in silence, isolation, and prayer to prepare properly (for however many years this takes).

So what you're saying is that Christ can behave 'badly' because he is God and we should NOT follow his example.


8fa89c No.621661

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>>621657

>Millions of babies being murdered and jews are feeding children faggot propaganda through the school system. Good thing im apolitical though so i dont have to do anything about it!

Go Away.


02de6b No.621663

>>621661

What could I possibly do about that? If I had children I'd homeschool them or send them to a private school, but I can't really change the horrific curriculum in public school, or stop abortion in any way other than learning how to properly talk someone down from it (I'm still learning to memorize the methods for this), and help them realize that their life will not be destroyed.


0ad7b1 No.621666

>>621663

You could join a political movement and at least attempt to make a difference. The average antifa thug is a jobless loser but they've managed to make a pretty big difference in the political sphere. They shut down various speakers who had a much milder message than we do.


017e15 No.621667

>>621666

>The average antifa thug is a jobless loser but they've managed to make a pretty big difference in the political sphere

They've made people more right-wing?


017e15 No.621669

>>621645

>They protest, march, and organize under a single banner.

And also become violent easily. Why? Because their unity comes form herd mentality and even then its horrific. They also tried to eat up Black Lives Matter a year ago because they were a competitor to their little thrones, and can start eating up each other anytime.

>>621651

>Willingness to act on their beliefs and unwillingness to compromise.

Also a result of their herd mentality, being in a crowd makes you like that. Riot tactics like that go away when you throw Pepper Spray on someone. Imagine me renouncing God because someone used Pepper spray.

Also

>Rioting in the street

How about something that actually matters


94c695 No.621674

Sure. As if rioting on the streets like leftist without government support isn't a inherently a bad idea.


542403 No.621675

>>621661

>feeding children faggot propaganda through the school system

Hmm? I've put 3 children through the public school system … never saw any of that.


0ad7b1 No.621677

>>621667

They haven't exactly done that, more so they simply fostered a greater divide between left and right.

>>621669

If you renounce God because somebody defies you, you're a very weak Christian.

And maybe we need a herd mentality. I don't know if you've been paying attention for the last 20 years but Christian values have slowly been chipped away because of our willingness to compromise for fear of hurting somebody's feelings.

And I never said we should be starting riots, I said we should be countering antifa and protecting people from THEM.


02de6b No.621679

>>621658

No, I'm saying Christians should follow His whole example. Prepare for a ministry with fasting and constant prayer (He did this before His ministry), and once you are sure God approves your actions and that you are doing it from a pure place, go ahead.

I know for a fact that if I were protesting abortion I would be pretty pissed off at the people for abortion (just by seeing their face), so it wouldn't be entirely in love, so until that point, I think it's best to refrain (I get somewhat fanatical about God's Law and atrocities to innocent people which causes extreme anger which isn't good or virtuous).

>>621666

The thing is many political parties (I know not of one that doesn't do this) tell lies, etc. I follow (if this is what it's called) the "principle of integral good" for the majority of things (and I'm working on all of them). If one part is evil the whole is. Most notably applied to media and music.

Also, being anything like Antifa in our tactics would be horrible.


8fa89c No.621680

>>621675

they must have gone to a school in a small town or city. i was generalizing of course.


542403 No.621683

>>621680

I wouldn't call Houston a small town, but eh … I understand the generalization.


81c394 No.621690

>>621579

>>621585

You aren't looking at the bigger picture. The issue isn't with the Antifa attackers, it's with the Antifa allies at the top who promote and exonerate them. If you attacked or criticized them right now, they would automatically publish hitpiecies about you while painting Antifa like a victim with a gofundme link.

If we were under normal leadership, a group like antifa would be already be labeled as a terrorist organization punished by the law for the actions they do. However, you have the press that promotes them, lawyers that defend them, professors that recruit them, and a government that funds them. Your aim should be to attack and replace those at the top, not their stooges. It's going to negatively affect you if you attack their stooges because it gives an opportunity for those leaders to smear your reputation and deplatform you everywhere.

If you're going to fight for a cause, fight smart. You're not going to catch large wild fish in a your fish bowl, you'll catch them in a lake.


9e6e25 No.621692

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>>621579

We always had some sort of popular movement before, but that's not gang, you don't kill as the communist did back in the days and it's always obedient to some aristocracy, not like others that only obey money, it's more popular groups relying to some christian organization/party.

Unfortunately it doesn't exist anymore in my country because :

>The society is emasculated, only indirect vicious violence is accepted

>Christian demography as evolved, now it's only a few bourgeois, popular faith is dying

>All problems you can say about the modern church

Sadly christian society is dying (if not already dead), so the popular culture is now from antifa and immigrates (of course pushed in the media by the elites)

>Pic related are catholic royalist militant from France that fought a lot ,named "Action française" or "camelots du roi" that's one good well known example. They for example denounced the "4 confederate states : Freemasons, protestants, jews and strangers"


ec578e No.621714

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Oh dear I hope you mean like European antifa and not American. Otherwise we're gonna save some trashcans.

Seriously though, it's unchristian to just go around and beat up sinners and businesses we don't like. A caring, army of prayer is far more courageous than one of hate.


ef373d No.621716

File: 6d86eebfd118bbc⋯.jpg (515.95 KB, 2518x1024, 1259:512, virgin chad.jpg)

>>621653

The Motherland was clearly not of this earth.


9e6e25 No.621718

>>621692

I should have told some examples of their actions :

>Helping the population on a large scale in inundations in Paris in 1910

>Publicly spanking a Paris famous university professor that insulted saint Joann of arc in 1909 (ass in the air, lying on his desk and all). That's for the symbol, of course they did a lot of fights.

>Emulating public opinion with journalism, polemism, making numerous republicans scandals public and then controlling public anger in hope of a revolt. Lots of conferences,…

>And all the classic counter-manifestations, revolts, destructions of ministers,…

Always with the people behind a well done militant organization. But nowadays fewer and fewer are those who remember the past, and even less are those willing to fight for it.

>tfw ywn break a police barrage with a group of royalist friends to put flowers on the statue of saint Joan of Arc in Paris.

>>621714

Seriously what is wrong with you guys ? I though 8chan was preserved from the ambient faggotry. You see a communist shouting anti-christian beliefs, insulting everything that you love, you must correct this public danger. Same for gays and all the ennemis of christianity. You must be strong. That's unchristian to be weak, and prayer can't substitute political/social actions.7

>hate

I really hope you are baiting.


ef373d No.621725

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>>621714

Like pottery.


542403 No.621728

>>621725

I think you might be confusing "drive the money lenders out of the temple" with "burn down the gay owned florist". It's a common mistake.


542403 No.621729

>>621718

>You must be strong.

True strength is loving your enemy and forgiving them.


6f653d No.621733

File: 913a518b55623bf⋯.jpg (87.1 KB, 550x362, 275:181, laconic-swiss-militia.jpg)

>>621579

>What if we had an organized street gang like antifa except fighting for a good Christian cause?

What, running around fixing people's fences, handing out food to the poor, and generally doing good works? Sounds peachy, but there's a lot of charities with better organisation you could achieve more through, I suspect.

If, OTOH, you're talking about some bullshit militia to crack pink-haired, shaven skulls, you kids get off my damn lawn.

That will NEVER be Christian. LOVE your enemies, is not the same as CRACK OPEN your enemy's skulls.

You want to escape the forthcoming {{{white genocide}}} go move to central Russia.

You want to escape the forthcoming Christian genocide go move to southern Africa. Kenya's nice this time of year.

But don't think for a moment that Christ will embrace your pre-emptive strikes given He knew for years what would happen to Him yet did not raise a single finger for His own defence.

>MUH HE WUZ SALVATION FOR WORLD

Yeah? And what good will you deny the Kingdom that would have come from your martyrdom?


b32df7 No.621736

>>621733

>Don’t fight, goy. If your enemies kill you you win. See how Christian the Middle East has become after all their Christians have been slaughtered!


6f653d No.621737

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>>621728

>>621718

See, non-violent actions are fine – even the public spanking, which sounds hilarious, frankly, though, these days you'd have to be careful because that would still be classed as assault. But, the fights … what good works come of that?

>I though 8chan was preserved from the ambient faggotry

>fails to recognise that /leftypol/ is just next door

You srs, brah?

>You see a communist shouting anti-christian beliefs

You mad, brah?

I read nothing anti-Christian in what leftyanon wrote.

<A caring, army of prayer is far more courageous than one of hate.

… is pretty much straight from Christ's own mouth.

Whereas this:

>That's unchristian to be weak, and prayer can't substitute political/social actions.

… that's just falangist propaganda you're sprewing up, typical /pol/ squat-berries, the sort of thing that earned Italy its servile Popes and church under Mussolini

>inb4 MUH MUSSOLINI DID NOTHING WRONG


dbe003 No.621739

Sorry OP it's not gonna happen. Men in the west have no testosterone.

Also relevant GK Chesterton quote

"Men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down.”


81c394 No.621740

>>621737

>>621714

Lol, take your own advice commie. You want your enemies to submit to you so that you can get an advantage over them from their submission.


6addfa No.621741

>>621739

>no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down.

Yeah, we can tell. We’ve gone from tolerating gays to welcoming invasion.


6f653d No.621743

>>621736

Aside from that fact that most Christians in the middle east that have vanished have either fled to the West or converted to Islam – not been killed en masse; Armenians aside – what do YOU know of the purposes of God in all this? Are you also God that you know the Father's plans for the middle east? How do you know God is not clearing the it of wheat so that a "Holy righteous fire" can burn all the chaff that remains? What do you know of God's plans?

Moreover, what part of "Love your enemies and do good to those who hate you" do you not understand??

Seriously! You people read the world in such Earthly ways, you seem to have NO MIND for the things of heaven.


542403 No.621745

>>621740

I don't want my enemies to submit to me. I want them to submit to Christ.


dbe003 No.621747

I just want a group of trad Catholic bros to lift with


81c394 No.621749

>>621745

They do, which is why they love their people and their country.


6addfa No.621754

>>621743

Fuck off, commie. I don’t have to die like a cuck because Jesus said be the bigger man in personal affairs.


9e6e25 No.621755

>>621728

>burn down the gay owned florist

Who spoke about that ? You are a gay florist ?

>>621729

>True strength is loving

>virtue signalling this hard

>implying I hate

Fuck off.

>Forgiving them

>Implying we don't forgave

>Confusing tolerance and forgiveness

Stop it Judas.

You are the hypocrite judging others in the name of your false conception of love.

>>621733

>If, OTOH, you're talking about some bullshit militia to crack pink-haired, shaven skulls, you kids get off my damn lawn.

That will NEVER be Christian. LOVE your enemies, is not the same as CRACK OPEN your enemy's skulls.

Again, as the other anon, projection. And what if you are doing something very bad ? what if [insert excessive bullshit outed of their context] ? You always assume others are haters unlike you.

>But don't think for a moment that Christ will embrace your pre-emptive strikes given He knew for years what would happen to Him yet did not raise a single finger for His own defence.

Because he had to suffer his passions. It have nothing to do with the subject, you guys are experts in syllogism as I see.

>You can't defend your country because God as died on the cross.

What you say is diabolic.

>>621737

>the fights … what good works come of that?

What good works come of punishing the unrighteous, of protecting the people from vilains, of fighting for justice ? Seriously….

The christian, who is not an hedonist materialist, don't care about violent vs non-violent action, but about charitable vs uncharitable.

>A caring, army of prayer is far more courageous than one of hate.

Are you sure ? I thought hate was the solution as a christian ? I thought the christian wanted bad things to happen ?

>the sort of thing that earned Italy its servile Popes and church under Mussolini

>Are you seriously saying it's christian to be weak and that spirituality is not separated from politics ?

>Your picture

Disrespectful for Our-Lord


02de6b No.621756

What happened to this thread?

Lord have mercy,

Christ have mercy.


6f653d No.621759

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>>621740

>your own advice

What advice?! I didn't offer you any!

However, if you're looking for some, let me offer this:

YOU'RE ON /christian/ NOT /pol/.

WE ARE NOT /pol/,

WE DON'T DO THINGS THE /pol/ WAY,

WE DO THINGS CHRIST'S WAY.

And if God judges that it is time for all the Christians to be eradicated from the Earth, that's entirely His choice. Not mine.

But, that phrase just sticks in your craw, doesn't it, /pol/? God would never do that, right? Because God has never allowed Christians to be en masse exterminated before, has He?

That's fine, because it finally just tells me you have no faith. Your belief in God is purely a consequence of your highest belief in western civilisation. You're not in love with Christ, you're so in love with western civilisation that you would rather fight to the bitter end to preserve that even if God Himself told you it would die according to His own plans.

>>621754

>commie

Aw, come on, that the best you got?

>Jesus said be the bigger man in personal affairs.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

NOW who's abusing scripture?

>>621756

/pol/ Gospel happened. It's like the "prosperity gospel" only more defend-the-barricades-of-western-civilisation-y


dbe003 No.621760

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6f653d No.621766

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>>621755

>What you say is diabolic

You conflate "country" with "kingdom".

There is only one Kingdom that needs to be defended, anon, and swords or punch-ups will not help it, or else He would send "legions of angels" that even the best militaries could not best.

>you guys are experts in syllogism as I see.

You truly do not see a pattern in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall Christ's actions, His willing dying, His avoiding fights with the Pharisees, His evading crowds of stone-throwers and cliff-top-pushers, His refusal to pick-up a single weapon? Not ringing any bells with how WE should live?

Not even the fact that only ONCE did He pick up a whip of cords and only to scare all the animals and merchants from His Father's temple – not to harm any of them – yet you, with YOUR brilliant syllogism, would make that the very definition of all things "Christian"?

This doesn't ring of false Christian values to you?

>Again, as the other anon, projection.

Maybe, but bear in mind, I'm responding to OP's vague notions, applying a general principle, setting delineations, than necessarily answering specific claims.

You haven't really outlined your purposes other than forming some falangist butt-spanking organisation, so it's kinda like you're only attacking us but defending nothing.

>The christian … don't care about violent vs non-violent action, but about charitable vs uncharitable.

Slippery slope argumentation, brah. Thar be dragons down that blind alley.

It is not "charitable" to give someone a black eye without the most exigent necessity. I'll defend someone's life with my own, sure, but I will not extend that principal to "defending western civilisation" because civilisations come and civilisations go, only God endures.


d307cc No.621767

Let your enemies seize your children, burn your churches, take your wife and harm your parents. It's the christian way :^) .


9e6e25 No.621772

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>>621759

>God will do everything for you.

That's not how it work pagan. God do it through us via charity, that's why secular power exist.

>That's fine, because it finally just tells me you have no faith.

You don't even hide yourself you pure faith-judge pharisee

>Your belief in God is purely a consequence of your highest belief in western civilisation.

Ahah yes, my belief in God is based on his benedictions. Are you saying you know directly God, and not through is act in his earthly Church ? That's pretty pridefull.

>You're not in love with Christ

Yet, you are so much.

>even if God Himself told you it would die according to His own plans.

Are you ? Can you, creature, understand his plans ? Waiting for God to speak directly to your mystic brain others will try to make the best with the rationality God gave them.

>>621766

>Confusing heaven and earth this much

The fact all that matter is only heaven isn't an argument for not being charitable.

Jesus was pacific, not a pacifist.

We defend things like what existed before in all christianity like the example I made.

charity is the only thing the christian must follow, the fact what he do hurt or not doesn't matter it's at best just a part of the equation.

With your passiveness defeatism statement you can't be a catholic.

>Protestantism : your daily dose of faggotry


632e9c No.621774

There is a time for love and a time for hate.

A time for peace and a time for war.

A time to sow and a time to reap.


81c394 No.621775

>>621759

>That's fine, because it finally just tells me you have no faith. Your belief in God is purely a consequence of your highest belief in western civilisation. You're not in love with Christ, you're so in love with western civilisation that you would rather fight to the bitter end to preserve that even if God Himself told you it would die according to His own plans.

I have no faith in your belief of being a doormat to evil people that lead others astray, only in God to grant us the strength to resist them and protect others.

Killing or assaulting them is not what I advocate, ruling over them to control their behavior is. We're instructed to be shepherds, not sheep.


d18eb4 No.621778

>>621579

Circumcellion, please go away


8fa89c No.621811

File: 751971e7cc62c8b⋯.jpg (225.97 KB, 985x837, 985:837, 1503172552513.jpg)

File: f706faf86f595bf⋯.gif (1.54 MB, 190x300, 19:30, 1521350548782.gif)

>>621737

>>621743

>>621755

>>621759

LEFTIST CUCKOLDS AND PACIFIST SOYGOYS BTFO BY BASED PAUL AND ST THOMAS AQUINAS

"Let every soul be subject to higher powers. For there is no power but from God: and those that are ordained of God. Therefore, he that resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist purchase to themselves damnation. For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to thee, for good. But if thou do that which is evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword in vain. For he is God’s minister: an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil” (Romans 13:1-4).

Therefore if a man be dangerous and infectious to the community, on account of some sin, it is praiseworthy and healthful that he be killed in order to safeguard the common good, since “a little leaven corrupteth the whole lump (1 Cor. 5:6). – (St. Thomas, Summa Theologiae, II, II, q. 64, art. 2)


e1d7b2 No.621814

File: ac114ee1012d3b3⋯.jpg (60.54 KB, 940x450, 94:45, police.jpg)

You remind me of these friendly guys.


a096dd No.621819

>>621579

>organized street gang

>antifa

>Christian

Nice D&C/false flagging /leftypol/.


8355b6 No.621856

>>621645

>>621645

So they can attack but not us. telegram group I made for anyone interested

https://t.me/joinchat/IBs4ok_fwoMuFFf90ZTBCg

I don't have discord but could be an option.

>>621649

I don't care. All attention is good attention. We will be attacked anyway.


9a92bb No.621862

>>621759

>c'mon goyim, just roll over and die, isn't that what Jesus would want?


009189 No.621863

>>621599

Is that pic a test for macular degenaration?


96937e No.621864

>>621767

Indeed, I'm glad someone here has some common sense.

>>621774

Get this Biblical hate speech away from my church.

>>621862

Yes, that was like totally Jesus' whole message: Submit to the Pharisees and let them ruin your civilization. He loved the Pharisees and their ways as he says in John 8:44

>>621811

Paul and Aquinas weren't real Christians. They were big bad meany pants and hurt feefees, so Jesus told us not to listen to them.


96937e No.621865

>>621864

I'm joking btw :^)


6f653d No.621875

File: 2ed9c4ac525f628⋯.jpg (24.52 KB, 400x400, 1:1, bane-seriously.jpg)

>>621772

>God will do everything for you.

Not something I ever said. Not something I meant, either. You're not only injecting ideas into what I said, you are completely misunderstanding what I AM saying. Whether it's deliberate, or you just cannot get past your hatred of everything (you think) I said, I don't know, but I would recommend you go back and clarify what you actually read and then dissect your opposition to that.

>that's pretty prideful

Ad hominem: The last defence of the scurrilous. Fine, you're right, I'm not making judgements about your faith, but I am telling you what it definitely sounds like.

>Are you ? Can you, creature, understand his plans ?

"Mystic brain"?! Where the actual fug are you getting this insanity? I wasn't telling you what God IS doing. How do you EVEN get that from what I wrote?

I was accusing you of being SO infatuated by western civilisation and thus wanting to defend it SO MUCH that even if God came and told you "It's done", you'd keep on fighting to preserve it. Maan, learn to READ!

>Jesus was pacific, not a pacifist.

Where are the proofs? Go on. Prove it WITHOUT relying on a whip of cords.

Hard-mode: without relying on the Old Testament.

>With your passiveness defeatism statement you can't be a catholic.

Gee, so I guess none of the earliest Christians were Catholics, either, and you're accusing all those martyrs who willingly went to their deaths at the hands of the vengeful and cruel of being "your daily dose of faggotry".

Interesting.

Well, afterall, they never took up swords to defend the Christian community, did they? Or do you know otherwise? I wonder how their God whom they so eagerly served even unto death would feel about your accusation.

>>621811

>Romans 13:1-4

Did you even read it yourself? How do you think that has ANY bearing on "kill a commie for Jesus"? Wouldn't Paul instead be saying, "Allow the authorities deal with the commies, you just don't be evil"? Isn't Paul basically saying, "remain peaceful, do good, submit to the gubment"? Or do you have some weird oneness pentecostal interpretation of that passage?

As for Aquinas, again, I am not sure you are EITHER reading properly your own text, or even arguing against me but some strawman you've invented to argue against. JUST AS Paul says, Aquinas says the same:

>Now the care of the common good is entrusted to persons of rank having public authority: wherefore they alone, and not private individuals, can lawfully put evildoers to death. (ibid Art.3)

He emphatically argues, just as Paul does, that it is the AUTHORITIES who do the execution of the wicked. What, pray tell, do you think you're arguing against? Have I ever said murderers cannot be killed by the law? Have I ever argued against gubments?

No, it is YOU who has the argument with God – via Aquinas and Paul – for (((you))) (and, let's be VERY clear, I speak to those against whom "we leftist cockolds" are arguing) who argued in favour of being able to go all "street gang" on antifa.

Aquinas and Paul support me, because they, rightly argue, that THAT IS NOT YOUR JOB, IT IS THE JOB OF GOD'S APPOINTED "AUTHORITIES". And you are not them.

Do you understand now?

Do you understand that all this time, "we leftist cockolds" are arguing against "Christian vigilante-ism".

What, in particular are you arguing for?


6f653d No.621877

>>621778

>Circumcellion

I am in awe of your pulling that into the argument. It's exactly what's happening here.


9a92bb No.621878

>>621875

>Hard-mode: without relying on the Old Testament.

<most of the bible is null and void

Why do you believe you're wiser than God?


96937e No.621881

>>621875

>Hard-mode: without relying on the Old Testament.

Yes goyim, ignore God's word. Only obey the parts I tell you to.


6f653d No.621884

File: ed26a2e5bae800e⋯.png (105 KB, 279x244, 279:244, come-on-man-seriously.png)

>>621878 >>621881

Nice try. I didn't say it was null and void, but which of the two testaments has the HIGHER revelation of God? Could it … might it … be the one with God in the flesh?

The OT was God establishing Israel, a country founded on the Law. Tell me, where now is the Law? Could it … might it … be now God in the flesh? Is not He the fulfilment of the Law? Does He not represent EVERYTHING the Law was meant to make men into?

So, when I say "Hardmode", I mean, as a fundamental rule of exegesis, that you ought look FIRST to Christ before seeking answers from what the Israelites did in 1Samuel.

It's really not that hard, mate.

But, sure, please, choose the path of 1Samuel. Go, be the Pharisees you seem SO EAGER to imitate.


dd3f47 No.621885

>>621863

No, it's a test for societal degeneration.


9a92bb No.621888

>>621884

>but which of the two testaments has the HIGHER revelation of God?

Neither, they are equally God's word

>Go, be the Pharisees you seem SO EAGER to imitate.

<yes goy, G-d's word is Jewish

You sound like a LARPagan


6f653d No.621891

>>621888

>>but which of the two testaments has the HIGHER revelation of God?

>Neither

REALLY?!

Some catholic you are.

>they are equally God's word

…was NOT the question.


9a1499 No.621898

File: d484b570c85e5b4⋯.webm (13.12 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Christian Ninja Force 2 -….webm)

>>621579

YES!

I had to share this very relevant webm with you guys. God bless.


6f653d No.621902

File: da11b959ab27797⋯.webm (3.3 MB, 640x360, 16:9, yes!!yes!!yes!!yes!!yes!!….webm)


96937e No.621912

>>621898

Now those are some men I'd marry my daughters off to.


7b31a2 No.621924

Just convert the antifa to Christianity. /thread


8fa89c No.621987

>>621875

>"Now the care of the common good is entrusted to persons of rank having public authority:"

>He emphatically argues, just as Paul does, that it is the AUTHORITIES who do the execution of the wicked

yes exactly. after we create our CATHOLIC MILITIA, we would then hand out ranks to our members and then we would become the authorities

:)


0ad7b1 No.622007

>>621875

>THAT IS NOT YOUR JOB, IT IS THE JOB OF GOD'S APPOINTED "AUTHORITIES". And you are not them

How do you know?


8fa89c No.622025

>>622007

Exactly. And who says we cant become the authorities? just like how the Iron Guard was put into a position of power, why cant we?

And btw to answer your original questions, i do not think it is against God in any way to publicly shame or punish faggots and the like. Just like how in the Middle Ages faggots/criminals would be tarred and feathered/executed or mutilated. Also make note that at many times there were no law enforcement in most villages so criminals were punished by the community.


96937e No.622027

File: a6f050d7bf70f95⋯.jpeg (23.05 KB, 547x402, 547:402, ancapball.jpeg)

>>622025

>Also make note that at many times there were no law enforcement in most villages so criminals were punished by the community.

Ancap HAS been tried!


0ad7b1 No.622031

>>622025

If we attempt to acquire political power and God deems us worthy to hold it, we will get it.


dbe003 No.622035

So becoming a gangster for God sounds silly but what about a private military contracting organization? Some even work as private police for certain areas.

An example would be if a privately owned christian military corporation contracted out men of good character and martial skills to protect Christian Assyrians or Sudanese Christians.


96937e No.622040

>>622035

If you could make a large Christian army powered by capitalism that would be op af.


0ad7b1 No.622041

>>622035

I like this idea but we need to get control over our own countries before we try to help our brothers and sisters in other countries.


8fa89c No.622043

File: e6036a5483684b1⋯.gif (2.35 MB, 257x194, 257:194, bigboss.gif)

>>622035

>>622040

>>622041

kek. This sounds exactly like Diamond dogs from mgs5


dbe003 No.622044

>>622041

That doesn't seem to be the correct mentality about it. Don't get me wrong, charity starts at home.

If you were to form a Christian PMC or something similar it should be done because you love God and love your neighbor for the sake of God. Part of that is civic duty.

You don't need to seize power to start fulfilling a civic duty even internationally. Now the examples I provided were just international so one could see the potential of one such group.


8f589f No.622055

>>622043

Dogs o’ God when (Latvian werewolves)?


bb2f95 No.622058

File: 64daa1e88ba10f1⋯.jpg (73.69 KB, 749x728, 107:104, _g49izEGXnCGK76yEsCQX3kB-S….jpg)

>>621579

best case scenario:

>we organise

>do some christian terrorism

>get funked like isis

>we all die and any person (no matter the religion, race, etc.) that buys into the same ideology as ours gets imprisoned

Congratulations!

Christianity is now outlawed!

Long live the fallen state of mankind!


bb2f95 No.622059

File: c6d69cb1ea4cab1⋯.png (17.4 KB, 250x206, 125:103, 1503330174761.png)


0ad7b1 No.622081

>>622058

>Christianity is outlawed

Pretty much already happening.


0e8d13 No.622092

>>621579

>What if we had an organized street gang like antifa except fighting for a good Christian cause?

Like Nazi Germany?

Don't worry.

I'm just memeing right now.

Hitler is only a Christian if it's to subvert /pol/ with bullshit.


22b097 No.624253

File: 2616ae96ff58e6a⋯.jpg (66.62 KB, 850x400, 17:8, quote-a-country-has-the-je….jpg)

>>621579

>What if we had an organized street gang like antifa except fighting for a good Christian cause?

The national cause is Christian because it fights against Internationalism which is Jewish. Just create a nationalist party with strong Christian values.


455db1 No.624399


1d91e9 No.624417

>>621579

>organized street gang

Disgusting. We are not bomb toting bolsheviks and free thinking anarchists. We can do better. A properly organized militia force is what would be proper. Full on Prussian drill kinda stuff.

Pic because why not.


77ca9a No.624424

>>624417

Seriously mods the pic wasn’t even rude


1d91e9 No.624427

File: 4964d070a7163d1⋯.jpg (86.03 KB, 675x1024, 675:1024, 1520352718429.jpg)

>>624424

perhaps mod will find this less objectionable then


77ca9a No.624429

File: 1d2906d2c969f70⋯.jpeg (28.37 KB, 384x384, 1:1, B1A36BF4-85F8-4DCE-8072-F….jpeg)

>>624427

Very lewd but also very nice


1d91e9 No.624432

File: 87f2d46224e4e11⋯.jpg (17.53 KB, 550x275, 2:1, Mas 22.jpg)

>>624429

We must not make the same mistake as the Believers of Russia and arm ousrsleves against the rise of Bolshevism and its godlessness.


1fa98d No.624447

Christians are called upon to carry the burden of being the adults in the room.

The methods of the evil one will never be useful to Christians.


77ca9a No.624485

File: bd02ad280717303⋯.png (27.68 KB, 319x462, 29:42, F2A0F856-FAEA-4BAB-8A34-7F….png)

>>624432

Absolutely agree


1d91e9 No.624489

File: ae28c20df1b0442⋯.jpg (42.47 KB, 604x515, 604:515, 21d.jpg)

>>624485

There are cultists everywhere friend! Take this.

http://thehomegunsmith.com/index.shtml


d7aa81 No.624494

File: a42153ddf98e11e⋯.jpg (56.12 KB, 853x480, 853:480, Chris Hoddapp, author of F….jpg)

File: 2af734230dc9002⋯.png (32.64 KB, 738x285, 246:95, The Order of the Knights t….png)

>>624489

>there are cultists everywhere

>posts a picture of the knights templar


1d91e9 No.624496

File: b0120ec3e7c746f⋯.jpg (12.77 KB, 387x509, 387:509, 2nd_New_Hampshire.jpg)

>>624494

There's one with guys in a prussian uniform but can't for the life of me find the damn thing.

So have a 2nd of New Hamphire


09c230 No.626342

>>621613

You say you love good but you do not hate evil.

You don't truly value good, so don't try to use that facade to hide you pacifism.




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