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4932c2 No.620723

Literally it's the 5th commandment. Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday and rose on the Sabbath day, yet some Christians for some reason worship on Sunday which is actually the day of the Roman solar deity. This practice was introduced by Emperor Constantine in 313 A.D.

Please, obey God and worship on the day he appointed which is from Friday to Saturday evening, which is the Sabbath day.

6ad6ae No.620724

>>620723

>This practice was introduced by Emperor Constantine

The first pope?


6ad6ae No.620727

File: 9bc9274766387e4⋯.png (99.7 KB, 214x255, 214:255, ClipboardImage.png)

Also here a more lowkey fecespost

The Didache

"But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas​​​​​​​

"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]). ​​​​​​​

Ignatius of Antioch​​​​​​​

"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr​​​​​​​

"[W]e too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart. . . . [H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts? . . . God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers . . ." (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]).

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

Tertullian​​​​​​​

"[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God" (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]).

Eusebius of Caesarea

"They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]).

"[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality" (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

Athanasius

"The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).


84257e No.620729

The Christian Sabbath is Sunday, the Lord's Day, this is basic New Testament


5088e6 No.620730

Because I'm a Christian and not a Judaizer.


a79346 No.620731

>This is the absolute state of Adventism


e04954 No.620732

>>620723

Firstly, it's the 4th, not 5th.

I'm willing to bet not one of you actually know when it is.


fbabb1 No.620733

This is one of many teachings of the Messianic Jews that I struggle with. I find it difficult to throw away Christian tradition which is common amongst virtually all denoms, yet in the Bible the sabbath is clearly on Saturday. I'm hoping a knowledgeable bible-believing anon can defend a Sunday sabbath.


e04954 No.620734

>>620733

The Sabbath isn't on Saturday, Sunday, or Friday as the desert dwellers erroneously believe.


fbabb1 No.620750

>>620734

>bla bla bla


8b90ea No.620751


fbabb1 No.620758

>>620751

Those are interesting quotes, none of which are from scriptures.


b63dda No.620761

>>620723

I find no evidence of saturday worship for as long as the christo-judaic split has been a thing.

That should come up a lot, especially among non-Roman(oriental and assyrian) churches, if "muh Constantine" changed it 300 years later


36bf63 No.620764

>>620723

Our Lord rested on the Sabbath and rose on the 8th day. Don't be fukn stoopid


755156 No.620766

>>620758

Correct, they're testimonies from the early Church.


84257e No.620787

>>620733

Acts 20:7

<On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day, and he prolonged his speech until midnight.

This verse is, in my opinion, perfectly clear. On Sunday, Paul preached in the church assembled, and they broke bread (not only did they break bread, but this was "when we were gathered together to break bread"). What is this but the worship service of the Lord? And what is the Sabbath but the day set apart where men break with their normal routine and practice the worship of God?


4e1397 No.620798

>>620723

> hey guise I'm biblically illiterate

Okay


5307d8 No.620801

>Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday and rose on the Sabbath day

Where did you come up with this?


dc409e No.620803

Since the debate is on the requirement to observe Judaic regulations, what metric does one go by and why in determining the start of a observed day? In the present the conventional practice is to consider the start of a day at midnight, but in the Jewish tradition it goes from sundown to sundown. But since Christ is risen, may it not be more pertinent to begin observations at sun up? Even though such issues have been decided on, it still begs the question.

Also relevant is calendar usage which itself has been a cause of conflict. Despite it, it could have made sense to follow the Hebrew calendar for determining things though the use of solar calendars is owed partly to the fact that they are simply proven to be more workable for agrarian people and that for the sake of convenience it's desirable to use or accommodate to a single calendar.


f64295 No.620814

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>What is mass


dcc080 No.620823

>>620727

I have .pdfs of the Didache and St. Just Matyer's letters. Does anyone have the Letter of Barnabas, and Ignatius of Antioch?


74d73c No.620849

>>620787

Nothing there indicates that Sunday replaced the sabbath.

>And what is the Sabbath but the day set apart where men break with their normal routine and practice the worship of God?

More specifically the sabbath is a day when all God's people abstain from doing work.


285afe No.620852

>>620849

>Nothing there indicates that Sunday replaced the sabbath

Sunday is the sabbath


b4caaa No.620853

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:


03613e No.620854

Jesus Christ routinely broke the rules of the Sabbath day. He even says:

John 5:17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working still, and I am working.”

Forget it, the reason it seems special is because its the only piece of ceremonial law in the otherwise moral law tablet.


360944 No.620855

File: 26b5a9393c1b898⋯.pdf (240.92 KB, Letter of Barnabas.pdf)

File: 95435a58e0b44b3⋯.pdf (88.72 KB, Ignatius Letter to the Mag….pdf)

File: f509051c85ca49b⋯.pdf (81.43 KB, Ignatius Letter to the Phi….pdf)

File: fb21c00000760db⋯.pdf (98.93 KB, Ignatius Letter to the Rom….pdf)

File: 3b04d38137bed30⋯.pdf (99.25 KB, Ignatius Letter to the Smy….pdf)


360944 No.620856

File: f0567663650397d⋯.pdf (91.13 KB, Ignatius Letter to Polycar….pdf)

File: 9d1d87662f269c2⋯.pdf (95.37 KB, Ignatius Letter to the Eph….pdf)

File: 09c67b2c68ecee7⋯.pdf (82.9 KB, Ignatius Letter to the Tra….pdf)


200571 No.620897

>>620852

Only if the week begins on Monday, though I don't recall Genesis saying which day creation began. For all we know Tuesday is the Sabbath and God's pissed that we get it wrong.


54d970 No.620912

>Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday

???


27045c No.620922

>>620897

Is God pissed that we eat pork? Do works of the law save?


200571 No.620925

>>620922

Not like the Bible says Friday.


84257e No.621083

>>620849

>Nothing there indicates that Sunday replaced the sabbath.

Except for Sunday being used as the Sabbath day?

>More specifically the sabbath is a day when all God's people abstain from doing work.

It is the day where they abstain from all worldly function (not just work) and practice the worship of God instead, which is what we see in this verse. Hence, we can see that in the apostolic practice, Sunday did not replace the Sabbath, but was the new day of it, which they called the Lord's Day. The first Sabbath signified the creation of the world, and the last signifies the new creation in Christ Jesus.

>>620854

That isn't a sound interpretation. It wouldn't make sense for God to sneak ceremonial law into the summary of the whole law. The context of that verse is that Jesus healed a man who was invalid, so what this verse establishes is not that the Sabbath is abolished, but that works of mercy have always been excepted.


fbf2b3 No.621088

>>620723

" Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths,

Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ."

Colossians 2:16-17

I guess Paul was the real Constantine all along.


84257e No.621090

>>621088

>sabbaths

That's plural for a reason, anon


fbf2b3 No.621094

>>621090

the point is that there is no need to follow the Sabbath, except to put aside one day of the week to worship.


84257e No.621100

>>621094

Which is the only Sabbath this thread is about


787b51 No.627046

File: 422fa2c63146f2a⋯.jpg (107.38 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Jew_Larva.jpg)

>>620723

becuz Christian, not jew

>Please, obey God and worship on the day he appointed which is from Friday to Saturday evening

Thanks, Benyamin, for reminding us


6cbb2d No.627047

>>620723

Because I work most weekends. The best i can do is maybe pray a rosary in down time.


a42017 No.627184

Due to cherry-picking Commandments, of course.


978d92 No.627187

I'm Christian not seventh day adventist or jew


a42017 No.627190

>>627187

>Implying SDA isn't Christianity in one of Protestantism's purest forms


27c25f No.627260

>>620723

>Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday and rose on the Sabbath day, yet some Christians for some reason worship on Sunday which is actually the day of the Roman solar deity

No, Jesus was crucified the night before the Sabbath. Reread the gospel

>When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

>The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

>Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.

>But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:

>But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

>And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

>For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.

Note there. It was the day of preparation, i.e. a Friday, and they didn't want Jesus to hang overnight and remain until the Sabbath day. So Jesus died on Friday, was buried on Saturday, and rose again on Sunday


97e6ab No.627271

>>620723

>This practice was introduced by Emperor Constantine in 313 A.D.

It's don't. Justin Martyr said that Sunday was the holiest day.


97e6ab No.627274

>>627271

<The command of circumcision, again, bidding [them] always circumcise the children on the eighth day, was a type of the true circumcision, by which we are circumcised from deceit and iniquity through Him who rose from the dead on the first day after the Sabbath, [namely through] our Lord Jesus Christ. For the first day after the Sabbath, remaining the first of all the days, is called, however, the eighth, according to the number of all the days of the cycle, and [yet] remains the first.

Judaizers BTFO


045f77 No.627276

>>627260

The Sabbath in question was the Passover.

He was crucified around 3PM on Weds.


973a33 No.627277

>>620723

If I keep the Sabbath to myself, then how can I share it with my brothers and sisters?


045f77 No.627282

>>620787

The quote you gave is not including the original flavor of the sentence. Here is a quote with it intact.

Act 20:7  And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

I wanted to share this and explain it. Upon the first day of the week means, just as the first day of the week is about to be upon them. The Hebrews calculated their day from dark to dark. So, upon the first day would be at dark on the Sabbath. ie. Saturday at dark. That woold conclude their shabbath service and then they would eat together. Paul was so wound up that he wanted to keep on talking and did so until Midnight that night. Makes perfect sense and does not need to break the Sabbath to make the scriptures make sense.

Shalom….


91881b No.627288


0ce35b No.627303

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>>627276

No, no. The Last Supper was Passover, which was obviously NOT the Sabbath, since he was crucified the next day. Jesus died on Friday.

Also, as to OP, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." There is a holy day, and as long as you are getting in a weekly day of resting and holy remembrance, it's legalism to say that it must be from 6pm Friday to 6pm Saturday in accordance with the Hebrew Lunar Calendar.


8c914b No.627305

>>627282

>Upon the first day of the week means, just as the first day of the week is about to be upon them

That is neither what the English nor the Greek word means. You are twisting the scripture.


a42017 No.627402

I repeat, Commandment cherry picking.


74d73c No.627404

>>621090

The Israelites had other sabbaths than the weekly sabbath, like the sabbath where they let the land lie fallow for a year at the end of every seven years, and the Jubilee which was every seven cycles of seven years, after which slaves were freed and debts were forgiven. The plural sabbaths has nothing to do with Sunday being a sabbath.


2de024 No.627552

The Sabath is from Friday at sunset till Saturday at sunset.

Jesus died shortly before sunset on Friday. He rested in the tomb Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, and probably rose from the dead at sunset on Saturday. Jesus kept the sabbath, fulfilling its ultimate purpose.

Spoiler alert: he wasn’t actually resting in the tomb, he was trampling down death by death.


4f5867 No.627556

>>627552

He rose 72 hours after his death. "Three days and three nights".


2de024 No.627557

>>627556

Three days: FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

COUNT LIKE A JEW


4856f5 No.627589

>>627556

Three days and three nights; not three whole days and three nights, but part of three natural days, from which, in common computation, the nights used not to be separated. We have an instance of this, Esther iv. 16, where the Jews were ordered to fast with her three days, and three nights: and yet (C. v, v. 1) Esther, after part of three days, went to the king.


e0536f No.627618

>>627556

>moving the goalposts

Show me in the Bible where it says "72 hours".




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