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>>619821

He doesn't, and will judge in the end. I think what they're trying to say is to judge them righteously (and how can you do that when we ourselves aren't righteous yet) and without hypocrisy, in love. God will judge and exact vengeance in love, when we try as failed and sinful beings it often is filled with hate and some kind of superiority complex.

If we can judge in love and without hypocrisy (if God tells you to do so), do it. If not keep silent and work on your own beam.

>>619839

I can safely judge faggots without being a hypocrite because i havent let dudes have sex with me. They hate the light. I used to not believe in demonic posession until i met some fags. They hate christianity because deep down they know theyre sick perverts who will go to hell

>>619821

Well, their souls are as valueable as ours, so we should care for their salvation.

But, we should not love, nor even tolerate, their transgression and misdeeds, but refute them in a manner >>619839 described.

Maybe Psalm 139:21 helps:

"Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?"

Grieved here describes it perfectly, we care (=love) about others, but on some Satans grip is too strong and they don't have faith.

>>619861

They have lust (as in the Epistle all these things begin in the heart before they come out physically as actions), do you? They have foul words, do you? They do not pray, do you even pray the three times a day as Christians were instructed to do (Didache)?

>Saying how someone knows they will go to hell meaning that you believe they will

This is literally the definition of judging we are not meant to engage in.

>>619865

Having to suffer them at school has strengthened my faith considerably. I didnt take it seriously until i saw where that road ended. I think thats why god sent me there. Im not gonna risk everything for them. They view christians like blacks view the kkk. Theyre reprobates and theres no hope for most of them

>>619871

The difference is my lust isnt for other men and i am able to control it until i get married. I know them well enough to know they are not christians. Ones a literal luciferian.

>>619877

Their current states and outward actions are not for us to judge (there have been many Saints who were absolute sinners before becoming Christian), and lust is destroyed not controlled. You don't know their thoughts or considerations, or anything about them. Just their public face.

>>619873

I agree with you, we shouldn't love their works, but still pray for their salvation.

We too were once dead in sin (Ephesians 2:1-10)

>>619839

>without hypocrisy

This is stupid. An alcoholic father should still tell his kids not to become alcoholics.

>>619900

But you can't criticize them if they become alcoholics.

> learn to tolerate divorce!

> learn to tolerate fornication!

> learn to tolerate homosexuals!

> learn to tolerate bestiality!

> learn to tolerate pedophilia!

The idea that love = tolerance permissiveness is the root of much evil in the world today and in the future. People think we're progressing when in truth society is simply regressing to the times when no one gave a crap about sexual deviancy and other crimes.

>Is tolerance and love really the same thing?

No. Certainly the love that we are to have for others is contrary to tolerance as currently understood.

Like it or not, we are indeed our brothers' keepers, and as such we are to look out for them at the best of times and the worst. If we fail to turn them from their desturction, then that's all the Lord can ask, so long as we have sincerely tried to do so. Remember, leaving sinners to go their own way without rebuke or caution is an abomination to the Lord and something which you will be asked to account for on the Doomsday.

If you buy into the idea that "to each their own" and "everyone does that which is right in their eyes", then you are actively helping to condemn sinners.

Archbishop Fulton Sheen said it best, when he said that we should be tolerant to the erring, but intolerant to the error.

>>619821

It would be infinitely more hateful to allow someone to fall into damnation when you have a message that can prevent it. Love means not tolerating the means by which someone throws themselves into Hell.

>>619905

Who will stop the words from coming out of his mouth?

>>619980

Ive tried to warn them but they just cried, called me a bigot and i got suspended. Ive done my job and they will be reminded of that on judgement day

>>619821

Satan pushes this idea that's why the world is now in ruins.

Firstly: The word 'love' has nowadays been reduced to physical attraction unfortunately. The meaning was lost.

Besides Eros, love is also the desire of well being of the other person.

Secondly: Love is not the same thing.

Tolerance to faggotry leads to pedophiles adopting children

Tolerance to abortion is literally murder

Tolerance to pornography leads to porn addicts and perverts

Tolerance to devil leads to him reigning.

Thirdly: Yoour parents punish you for your misdeeds. Your heavenly father does so too. Does that mean they do not love you? of course they still love you. The punishment is sometimes the most mighty deed of love.

Is it love when you do not point out that sodomy is a mortal sin? Is it not love to point out abortion is murder? Is it not love to tell the truth - the way to God is only through Christ, not through occult stuff or other religions?

Fourthly: Everything is tolerated nowadays…except for one true christian faith. That kinda tells you something doesn't it? Any form of degeneracy and bestiality is normalized. Speak against it as christians SHOULD and you will be punished.

Those are the things to consider. This heretical 'church of niceness and so called tolerance' has no future. It's a gangrenous limb, a putrifying flesh.

Tolerance is often the very opposite of love, because it is borne from and an expression of Apathy.

Apathy is the opposite of Love, which is caring for someone/thing and so responding accordingly.

Tolerating stuff because you don't care about it is the opposite of the caring which is love.

>>619821

It's "love thy brother as thyself as long as he obeys God's commandments".

God hates sinners and destroys them, but not before giving them a chance most of the time.

>>619821

To love is to will the good of the other.

This is why it's possible to punish your child out of love when they behave poorly.

You don't hate your child because you're punishing them, it's actually a form of love because you're setting them upon the right path.

You certainly don't tolerate their bad behave, because doing so would be far more costly to their well-being in the long run.

Of course, you can go over the top and punish them in a way that isn't out of love, e.g belting your child and making them sit in their room for the rest of the night because they did something incredibly minor/insignificant

Tolerance and "love" are not the same thing. What many people profess as "love" to day is in fact an absolute abomination. And tolerance is how we are regressing to the days of sodom and gommorah and we know how that ended.

>>624204

>if u want to be popular dont be a preacher

>shows pic of popular preacher

>most protestant preachers have families that live off of their preaching, which means the ones that live off of it are popular

???

>>624218

This.

Are you sure it's actually "tolerance" and not "acceptance"? I can tolerate homosexuals, but I do not accept their behavior.

>>619821

prejudice should be a virtue not tolerance

>>619821

Love is preaching the bible to them.

Tolerance is the same as doing nothing.

>>619821

Love is the very opposite of tolerance.

Tolerance is apathy. The man who is tolerant to evil does not love good.