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Worthless. We already had the Masoretic texts.

Worthless. We already had the Septuginta.

>>618827

>>618825

Don't they corroborate the Septuagint, though?

Smug atheists write libraries full of books about how the Bible is full of crap because translations and age caused it to change too much for us to know what it ever actually said.

Shepherd kid finds a bunch of pots in a cave in the desert, some as old as the 3rd century B.C.

They match the Masoretic texts almost perfectly, differing only in minor points of spelling and grammar.

Atheists quietly memory hole all the crap they'd been spewing about the inaccuracy of the Bible.

Basically, the Dead Sea scrolls told everybody what Christians already knew.

The thing I found out about them was that the modern Bible we have was manipulated by Pharisees, they removed a certain name from the genealogy which had a relation with sorcery; e.g. Kabbalah I presume, so they removed it. The older (Greek?) Version found in the Dead Sea cave contained the missing name of that guy.

>>618837

The Masoretic book of Isaiah also removed several references to the "Son of Man".

>>618844

Damn. Interesting, I will look further into it.

>>618844

Like what? The KJV Isaiah has it twice

Isaiah 51:12 I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die, and of the son of man which shall be made as grass;

Isaiah 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

>>618827

Septugint says Methuselah survived the flood by 14 years

LXX: Methuselah lived to be 969 years old (Genesis 5:27)

MAS: Methuselah lived to be 969 years old (Genesis 5:27

LXX: Meth. 167 years old when Lamech born (Gen 5:25)

MAS: Meth. 187 years old when Lamech born (Gen 5:25)

LXX: Lamech 188 years old when Noah born (Gen 5:28)

MAS: Lamech 182 years old when Noah born (Gen 5:28)

LXX: Noah 600 years old when flood began (Gen 7:6)

MAS: Noah 600 years old when flood began (Gen 7:6)

LXX: 167+188+600=955 years old when flood began

MAS: 187+182+600=969 years old when flood began

http://ecmarsh.com/lxx-kjv/genesis/gen_005.htm

>>618822

>triggers the Muslim

>triggers the Jew

>triggers the kjv idolaters

Pretty impressive

>>618882

How does it trigger the Muslim?

>>618898

Not that guy but I think its because Muslims say that the Christian bible has been corrupted from its original form and that the true bible would support their view. The dead sea scrolls show that the bible hasn't changed that much.

>>618913

>>618946

There was an anon in another thread that said that that webm didn't tackle the Muslim argument correctly, because they believed that the bible was heard but never written down. I wish i could link the post.

>>619155

That was just a triggered mudslime

>>618822

>What's the deal with these?

They're an interesting look into what some jew believed during the second temple period

>Why are they controversial?

They aren't except among people keeping the septuagint/masoretic fight alive and brainlets who think that Dan Brown's novels are non-fiction.

They have been a compelling source of information for the study of historical Jewish thought and biblical texts.

>>618875

Nother scrooge cleric like the ones they claim to despise except when it comes to analyzing information beyond the translated Bible.

>>619198

>>619191

What were the beliefs of this jew?

>>618898

Iirc here are gnostic texts in it that the Quran copied from heavily, dispelling the idea that the Quran is a revalation at the time of Mohammed

>>619445

Again people with no idea of what they're talking about. While some of the findings in the Dead Seas scrolls might be challenging to certain established dogmas, it wasn't in the DSS where Gnostic texts where found but in the Nag Hammadi codices. The DSS do however contain the oldest preserved Hebrew biblical texts and being so has been instrumental in the advancement of the study of biblical texts.