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3484ff No.617377

I think the arguments for God, natural law, etc are very solid. They have a logical foundation and are capable of taking the offensive. The theological side of things; validity of the Bible, miracles, etc. is far more difficult from where I'm standing.

There are many difficult questions that I've only seen be evaded by clever intellectual agility, not the intellectual strength that is present when arguing God in general. Questions of why did God let most of the world be in complete ignorance of the Gospel for the first 1000+ years after the death of his son, why God seemed to be silent throughout most of our history as a species, etc.

The Old Testament is also really hard to defend to normies. Been trying to look at the way the church fathers read the Old Testament and honestly I get a very wishy-washy evasiveness from them as well when it comes to the "difficult verses" where God seems to be calling for or condoning genocide, polygamy, and a legal system closer to sharia than Christendom

What resources, arguments, or advice do you guys have?

86e1e3 No.617398

>why God seemed to be silent throughout most of our history as a species, etc.

I've never seen any argument put forward for the uniqueness of God's revelation. It could be that He revealed himself to peoples other than the Jews, but that they ignored his commandments. But this might go at odds with people's ideas of Scripture being divinely inspired.


5653e3 No.617634

> Closer to sharia than Christendom

Christendom was European, and was heavily influenced by European culture. Sharia law comes from the Quran, which bases most of its morality on the Bible. In essence, Christian sharia is closer to the actual laws of God than you'd think. Islam has many theological flaws, and is obviously a false faith. But the Arabs have succeeded in preserving the strong moral laws of God much better than the west.


f9b201 No.617641

>>617377

> Questions of why did God let most of the world be in complete ignorance of the Gospel for the first 1000+ years after the death of his son,

Apostles and their successors did what they could. Church is unfortunately made our of humans. But by death of John there were Christians from India to Hispania. By Seventh Council, From China to Lybia. In eve of Reformation milions of Indiands were baptised.

Plus, re-read Romans 1 (And maybe Wisdom when we are at it).

>, why God seemed to be silent throughout most of our history as a species, etc.

<Evolution

But if you are willing to get into shit, remind the opponent's how many times humans were endangered species.

> Been trying to look at the way the church fathers read the Old Testament and honestly I get a very wishy-washy evasiveness from them as well when it comes to the "difficult verses

Read more. Or read just one - commentary of Haydock. It's does a really good job when it comes to it.

>calling for or condoning genocid

Canaanites and others were fucked up beyond measure. But even they could save themselves by repentance and turning to God.

>polygamy

Well, he did. For marriage is threefold - for man as an animal (in which polygamy is truly acceptable for it is for marriage first end, rising of children), for man as a man (in which polygamy partially destroys second end, the community of works that are a necessity of life, and in reference to this married ones owe one another "fidelity" which is one of the goods of marriage) and for a man as an beliver (in which polygamy is not acepteble at all, for end of this marriage is to be sacrament of union of Christ and his Bride)

Polyandry however…

>and a legal system closer to sharia than Christendom

Re-read Torah. And watch David Wood sometimes.




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