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05d6eb No.616815

Fellas help

I'm not sure whether to be Catholic or Orthodox anymore

d09d47 No.616816

we have this thread everyday.

Just get saved and call yourself a Baptist already.


37c059 No.616817

maybe you could provide us with some context

also the correct answer is catholic


05d6eb No.616819

>>616817

but an orthodox christian can also claim that


a68be9 No.616820

Maybe you could provide us with some context.

Also, the correct answer is Orthodox.


05d6eb No.616822

>>616820

>>616817

You see, I was born Catholic and saw the corruption of the church, I went through a Protestant phase, then an Orthodox phase where I was very convinced, but then i also became Catholic again

It's confusing

Although I can rule out protestantism


6c3e80 No.616827

>>616822

>then an Orthodox phase where I was very convinced

>but then became Catholic

You have to give some specifics on why you keep converting


05d6eb No.616829

>>616827

I was convinced by the idea that the Orthodox Church is the true church because of how much it upholds tradition, compared to the Catholic Church

I also think that the Sedevacantists' point of view is pretty convincing, because they speak of prophecies such as the great apostasy which is happening in the church right now


05d6eb No.616830

>>616829

I'm not all that good at explaining things, honestly.


9ec44b No.616832

>>616815

BEGOME…. EASTERN GADOLIG :DDDD


05d6eb No.616833

>>616832

BEGOME… WESTERN RITE ORTHODOX


cf8ae3 No.616939

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>>616832

>>616833

You fools…


c3463f No.616949

>>616822

Stop being me


d165f7 No.616952

>>616832

>>616833

NEVER CROSS THE STREAMS


453fde No.616985

>>616815

If you think popes taking part in pagan rituals is fine than join the Catholic Church


a3e7e3 No.617000

>>616829

>>616949

I also have this history (though I never officially converted to Orthodoxy or accepted Orthodox communion). How common is this on this board?


05d6eb No.617142

>>616985

Yeah, that's what throws me off with Catholicism

That's why I was very interested in Sedevacantism


7ee12a No.617146

>>616817

I know a family that's Melkite Greek Orthodox Catholic. They have a total of 8 kids I think. The dad has a PhD in theology.


085724 No.617170

>>616815

Begome SSPX if you want Catholicism without modernism.


a9d529 No.617172

>>617146

You don't have to be Roman to be a Catholic, look into the numerous other rites out there if you want a different tradition.


a9d529 No.617174

>>617172

>>617146

Accidentally quick replied, that was meant for OP.


e4efbc No.617179

I mean… what exactly are you unsure or confused about?


176532 No.623412

>>616949

>>617000

>>616829

>>616822

The same here. except I never full on board Orthodox. If I was to consider just the political situation right now I would choose Orthodoxy.

But - believing that RCC - is the true church I go with RCC. I do not thing the fact that RCC is now more subverted than Orthodox church means RCC is not legit. By the same logic you would have to say: Because Stalin subverted Orthodox church Orthodoxy cannot be legit.


176532 No.623413

>>623412

*think


176532 No.623428

>>616815

Current political climate in a particular church should not be a reason to convert. It might seem confusing but consider the following: Be a russian, 1930s. Your church is subverted by bolshevik regime. Catholic church is doing much better and you see it. Then you chimp out, become convinced RCC is the true church based on this fact go full RCC because of this??. Now the situation is somewhat reversed. RCC is doing worse - especially with the current pope. Does it make Orthodox church the one true church? If you're Orthodox and you make this argument to convince RC to convert you do not debate in good faith and it proves your inconsistency in world view and theology(because your argument is not based on theology but current politics). By the same logic Russian Orthodoxy was not legit in 1930s. You either stand behind something or you don't. Either a current climate establishes the legitimacy of the church or it does not because the church can be subverted - even the true church. You cannot pick one for the other church and then proclaim your own church does not fall in the same logic. That is hypocrisy.

Your conversion must be based on your knowledge of theology, not a reaction to politics.

What led me away from RCC? exactly this . I am glad I was in contact with Orthodox guys and I do have respect for them. I was never full on board because I realized I do not know much about my theology. Some arguments against RCC were protestant-tier - frankly low minded purposeful distortions or straw man arguments. Such as:

>Claiming catholics believe pope cannot make a mistake because 'infallibility'. Therefore showing they knew nothing about the actual doctrine.

>muh Francis supports refugees that means RCC cannot be legit.

>calling some parts of RCC liturgy 'pagan larping' simply because of lack of interest for tradition.

>Revisionism of history in the manner 'as long as Orthodox guy did that it's all right. Catholic did it>>>>lmao that's so wrong those deluded caths.

I have strong distaste for this attitude. It did not convince me 'Orthodoxy is not the true church' because I grew out of this larping. This intellectual dishonesty however made me think about things. First of all: Why did I start to view RCC as inferior? It made me study the theology. Tbh I am still studying so I can become familiar with the differences (Filioque, etc.) I consider myself RCC now, eager to study more.

Just gonna say this: 'Muh Francis' is not an argument against RCC theology. If that is your first argument then it's quite approach tbh.

He may be a heretic but that does not necessarily mean RCC is not legit.


1703b6 No.624065

>>616817

>also the correct answer is catholic

As long as you mean Orthodox Catholic.


be954c No.624240

>>624065

That is a superfluous reiteration. Catholic is always orthodox. That's like saying catholic christian.


1703b6 No.624247

>>624240

Orthodox Catholic Church = Eastern Orthodox Church

Roman Catholic Church = Pope Church


8fe63c No.624382

I'm Orthodox and i'm seriously considering going Catholic. So i understand your feeling

I want to read some more Catholic and Orthodox literature before i finally decide.


5c8b55 No.624393

I'm not baptized and while I know the basic tenets of both faith, I know little about the schism in itself . Is there a reading list out there? What do you advice? Thanks!


375f62 No.624402

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Only memes can solve this.


8fe63c No.624413

>>624393

I have some Christian books that i plan to read all eventually. There isn't too much in there but still worth your time.

https://mega.nz/#F!esZljaCR!T0L70yRF0-Yc_N6pSsI-OQ


9201d9 No.624419

>>617170

SSPX is in schism


8e7fbb No.624493

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132f48 No.627437

>>616815

I'm just as confused as you. I wonder about my own faith.




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